side by side aerocloner vs bubble cloner......
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Mean Gene
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I bought a already together bubble cloner kit from a local hydro shop. Holds 9 2" net pots came with the air pump and a small air stone. I took clones all the same day and dropped them in the cloner ph7.0 water at room temp. The only one to show any real signs of root development was the one directly above the stone receiving all the bubbles. Took 8 days. All the rest had no signs yet. I went out today and bought some diff air stones to spread bubbles more evenly throughout. Hopefully that will kickstaty the rest. So i know for sure that the air bubble stimulation on the stem does increase rooting speed.
(Ignore 2nd stem in pic its a cutting i took a couple days ago and just dropped in there)
(Ignore 2nd stem in pic its a cutting i took a couple days ago and just dropped in there)
Reggae1017
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No additions but the large water volilume makes your temps more consistent even with evaporation/use as evaporation barely dents the water level, I could go a month without even checking water level where on my small one I can't do that because evaporation will significantly lower water level, increasing temp from the heater, and then causing algae. Not a biggy but if you have the space a larger cloner makes for less need to check on it. That said I'm running about 20 sites in a 2 gal and it's fine so long as I keep an eye on water level.
bdt1981
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How much did it cost? How big of an air pump? Give it 5 more days and u will see more root. Some strains seem to take longer. Maybe the stem makes a difference how soft it is? Enough time and temp i forgot about that 75 to 80. They will root
Mean Gene
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Lol that was a few weeks ago. I cloned 11. Roots took off fine. I used plain tap water ph 7.0 no nutes. Room temp. I had to modify my air stone i think the bubbles help so i added 2 long stones. The entire set up cost me $30 at a local hydro shop. The air pump is for a 5-10gal tank. Plenty of air. You can build a diy set up for less than 30 but it came with net pots and root plugs. Im tired of diy at this point lol. I just want to buy it and plug it in. If you want more info or pics of my set up let me know.
st0wandgrow
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I switched from an aero cloner to how you're doing it not long ago. Lost a few batches of clones to power outages, so I said fuck the aero cloner.
I was only getting about 50% of my clones to root though with the trays, so I went and picked up a dome and heating pad per someone else's advice. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, because these cuts are looking terrible. They're almost turning brown. Not a crispy brown, but a soggy wilting look to them. Almost like they're rotting or something. Wtf??
This is noob shit that I shouldn't be struggling with after 15 years of growing herb! lol
Chunky Stool
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Got a pic? I've never seen em turn brown.
Actually, I unknowingly took some cuts that had mites last year & they did what you're describing.
Chunky Stool
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I'm doing a clone run right now. So far, so good.
Gotta keep your heat pad on concrete while your dome vents are shut. (week 1) Otherwise, you'll overheat. Wood is bad. Insulates way too good.
Gotta keep your heat pad on concrete while your dome vents are shut. (week 1) Otherwise, you'll overheat. Wood is bad. Insulates way too good.
st0wandgrow
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I can snap a pic in a bit. They're real pale green with brown towards the edges of the leaves. They look awful!
I might try your tip of putting the heat pad/tray on the concrete floor. I've got it up off the floor right now...
Indefinately
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I used a bubble cloner with netted pots with the bottom cut out so that when the roots developed thru the rockwool, they wouldn't tangle the netted pot.
I would use rockwool starter cubes in the netted pots. Heater in water adjusted to 28 degrees and adjusted the bubbles strength to make sure the rockwool was damp not saturated.
Always left dome on and foliar sprayed with "super thrive" for the first week until the roots had made there way thru the rockwool and Into the tub with the bubbles.
Can't wait to be growing again.
Has been a few years.
About to crack open some seeds soon.
Indefinately
" Let it be Green in 2016"
I would use rockwool starter cubes in the netted pots. Heater in water adjusted to 28 degrees and adjusted the bubbles strength to make sure the rockwool was damp not saturated.
Always left dome on and foliar sprayed with "super thrive" for the first week until the roots had made there way thru the rockwool and Into the tub with the bubbles.
Can't wait to be growing again.
Has been a few years.
About to crack open some seeds soon.
Indefinately
" Let it be Green in 2016"
plumsmooth
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Are you saying you ran 2 completely different strains in each that would Null a true test?
plumsmooth
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My favorite thing about Bubble Cloner vs Aero is that they don't overheat easily at ALL! In a warm room that Pump can take an Ez-clone to 90 degrees in a hurry... I also think with the proper configuration of strong air pump and the right kind of Air Diffuser or Stone one can achieve excellent droplets splashing on the stem which to me is just as good or better than the water stream being sprayed. However it does seem one wants to have the stem at least 1/2 inch in the water res?
Cannabisco
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I use those plastic coffee cans lol the big ones like 2 gallons. It fits 4 pots in the top. I use them cheap pool noodles from dollar store. I had better luck with the noodles over clay balls in the cup holding the stem. I have a air pump running a air stone in each. I have a sterilite tote diy bubble cloner , but I don't need the size anymore. I use beneficial bacteria and no water change , just top it off every few days... after they root I change the water and start again. No PH, I use bubbled tap water and extra light nutes. Usually see roots in 3-8 days , 100% every time.