Mass Shooting at Florida Gay Club

[MuyLocoNC]

Anyone could do that, I could do that. I'm not affiliated with ISIS. If he's crazy, there's a good chance he would do that. What actual evidence is there that links him to ISIS beyond him claiming he was and the organization taking credit for the attack (when they would take credit for the attack whether they were actually responsible or not)? Are there any records of communications between known ISIS members/affiliates and Mateen? Is the NSA doing it's job with all of our tax dollars, he was investigated by the FBI, right? Why was he allowed to legally own a weapon?

Yeah, it's a complete coincidence and really about him seeing two guys kiss months ago.

Attack comes after ISIS called for 'month of hurt' during Ramadan

An audio recording released by ISIS spokseman Abu Mohammed al Adnani called on supporters to launch attacks in the USA and Europe.

Ramadan, the Islamic Holy Month, started last week and marks a month of fasting for Muslims.

Al-Adnani called on fanatics to "terrorise [people] so the neighbour fears his neighbour", in the group's most strident call for attacks yet.

He said: "The smallest action you do in the heart of their land is dearer to us than the largest action by us, and more effective and more damaging to them.

"And if one of you wishes and tries hard to reach the Islamic State, then one of us wishes to be in your place to hurt the Crusaders day and night without sleeping, and terrorise them so that the neighbour fears his neighbour."

And he's totally not a gay hating Islamist. Just a run of the mill white guy. We all like to wear lace doily head condoms.

And this guy ain't Jewish either.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Liberals exist in a state of denial, a vacuum.

 

[bluntmassa1]

Mmm, wrong on so many levels. Our argument is the scenario would have ended differently if half or all of the good guys had guns. A lone shooter might take out a single good guy with a firearm, but he ain't taking out 50.

One could even surmise he might not have even attacked if he knew a majority of the patrons were packing heat in the club.

Derp...Clownshoes.

Damn straight 1 good guy with a gun is a joke but 100 it would be suicide to try killing them.

 

[spandy]

The gun free zone signs need to be in all languages with bigger text. Maybe for added safety add some red highlights and maybe a blinking light or two.

Otherwise, this shit is just going to keep happening...

 

[Olive Drab Green]

I just caught flak from Sunni for telling off some guy trying to sell opiates, weed, Ritalin, Adderall, etc. in open forum. Like, he's posting his number and his email address, claiming he is "selling it legitimately" when you can't and I think I've been put on slomo for it.

I was only looking out for the site.

Nevermind, not on slowmo. Got a warning, though.

 

[Flaming Pie]

@UncleBuck it's not just ISIS it is the doctrine of Islam that is followed by the middle east and being preached to mosques in the united states.

Of course you will say there is nothing wrong with this and say christianity is far worse.

 

[Smidge34]

This ISIS terrorist was interviewed by the F.B.I not just once in 2013 but 2014 as well with ties with a known terrorist-bomber yet he buys 2 guns legally just last week....(pistol and rifle)

Yet Average Joe Citizen who fucked up and got a possession of a controlled substance felony conviction at 18 years old can't fucking legally purchase a firearm for the rest of their lives in a lot of states unless they receive a pardon from the POTUS or the Governor of the state. That is how fucked up shit is.

 

[Uncle Ben]

The Muslims of the world need to take action to undermine the ideology of their facist brothers or the murders will continue. You can't totally defeat these people with drone strikes, you have to negate their sick ideology.

CAIR was quick to denigrate the actions of this madman but that doesn't go far enough. They need to join the fight but are probably too afraid for their own lives.

 

[Flaming Pie]

try to keep up, dumb dumb.

flaming pile asked me what the CIA had to say about muslim refugees.

so i told her. the CIA says muslim refugees have killed very few americans. i also told her that right wing christians like herself have killed 80 times more americans than muslim refugees, according to the CIA.

if you are unable to follow along with such a simple discussion, then you may want to stick with counting the number of garbage bags your hispanic neighbors put out.

Pardon me. The FBI and Homeland security.

But it's a vast right wing conspiracy.

 

[bluntmassa1]

@UncleBuck it's not just ISIS it is the doctrine of Islam that is followed by the middle east and being preached to mosques in the united states.

Of course you will say there is nothing wrong with this and say christianity is far worse.

It's okay if it's a poor oppressed Muslim though...

But the way I see it we already have a genocidal religion in America why take more? Especially fighting aged men who don't care if ISIS wins and controls their homeland. I'm cool with women and children but most immigrants are fighting aged men.

 

[Hookabelly]

i don't get what ISIS has to do with this american born middle aged male shooting up a gay bar.

his own dad says he was motivated by hatred of gays and doesn't consider him to be a muslim.

Omar Mateen got 'very angry' seeing two men kissing, father tells NBC
Omar Mateen's father, Mir Seddique, spoke to NBC News about the shooting . "This had nothing to do with religion," he told the network.

"We were in downtown Miami, Bayside, people were playing music. And he saw two men kissing each other in front of his wife and kid and he got very angry," Seddique told NBC. "They were kissing each other and touching each other and he said, 'Look at that. In front of my son they are doing that.' And then we were in the men's bathroom and men were kissing each other."


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-live-omar-mateen-got-very-angry-seeing-two-1465749495-htmlstory.html

So take ISIS out of it then, It's confirmed today that he WAS a devout Muslim. Hopefully his father meant it had nothing to do with the mainstream Muslim religion and that he didn't consider his son a Muslim b/c the son was perverting the religion. IDK, but I can't believe you are arguing that this man didn't gun these people down in the name of an ideology and not solely on the idea that he was a whack job. (again, the other "crazy" mass shooters in the U.S.weren't affiliated with any group, they were just plain nuts)

People become indoctrinated into all sorts of religions and cults.

 

[squarepush3r]

I must say I dislike Trump and could never vote for him, but this kind of stuff is gunna get him elected (ESPECIALLY the weak/scared response by Obama/Hillary)

 

[MrRoboto]

I like bucks logic on this one. ISIS didn't make him do it. And by association the AR15 didn't make him do it.

He was crazy. Nut jobs are the real enemy.

To those who say we need gun control, there are already sufficient laws in place concerning acceptable behavior. As you can see laws do not protect you from those who don't follow them.

A locked door just keeps honest people out.

 

[bluntmassa1]

If Chesus were here (banned again?), he would be telling us how the possibility that a couple people might be "winged" by errant return fire, is more important to protect against than making possible the saving of 49 lives.

Sort of true but we can make a law to prevent irresponsible gun ownership. I think we should all have to take a mandatory gun safety course to own a firearm nothing too big but like a hunter safety course most everything I learned about gun safety was from the mandatory hunter safety course.

It's just a little irresponsible to arm every idiot with a gun if they can't pass a simple firearm safety course they should not have a gun. But everyone should be able to own a firearm I love my AK I can drop trees with it just not really big hardwood trees. Lol, This big oak must have took 500 rounds. Lol

 

[MuyLocoNC]

 

[MuyLocoNC]

 

[Rrog]

His father is a lying sack of shit

 

[Abiqua]

Yeah, it's a complete coincidence and really about him seeing two guys kiss months ago.




And he's totally not a gay hating Islamist. Just a run of the mill white guy. We all like to wear lace doily head condoms.



And this guy ain't Jewish either.

hmmm you forgot one.....

 

[Abiqua]

one shooter = Lone nut - Oswald
multiple shooter = grassy knoll / coordinated op

 

[MrRoboto]

Mirror pic'n jihadist