Tap Water suitable for plants in minutes!
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slinkysaurus
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Before it even gets that far, with my water - it binds with elements in your A and B feed into sodium. Thus creating a nute lock out.
Why it's so important to bubble!
Budley Doright
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Charcoal removes chlorine, not RO.
ThaMagnificent
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My ec of tap is 0.2. Not bad but I think the Chloramine is messing with my plants
BobCajun
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Metals can't "evaporate". Maybe it precipitates them out as a powder. How do you know it's not also interfering with nutrients in the same way? How is it good that the stuff is still in there after you add the nutes? I just use ZeroWater ion exchange filters. They also have a carbon layer on the top which absorbs chlorine first. They're widely available.
rkymtnman
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MJ can handle 1 to 5ppm chlorine. i run at 4ppm. chlorine ( if i remember correctly) is a tertiary nutrient for MJ so it is used by the plant.
most muni water is chloramine nowadays.
BobCajun
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Here's a good pdf about removing chloramine. Apparently carbon doesn't work very well, but ascorbic acid works and would be safer than the other chemicals. One gram treats up to 50 gallons. So that would be about 20 mg per gallon. Then if the pH is too low you can just add some pH up solution.
I'm glad I saw this post. I might need to get a bottle of crystal ascorbic acid. Can't really trust a carbon filter to get it all. Come to think of it, one of the bad points of the aquarium chemicals is that they release ammonia when they remove chloramine, but since ascorbic acid is an acid it should also neutralize the ammonia to ammonium ascorbate. After some experimenting, you should be able to find just the right amount needed to take care of both the chloramine and the ammonia.
I'm glad I saw this post. I might need to get a bottle of crystal ascorbic acid. Can't really trust a carbon filter to get it all. Come to think of it, one of the bad points of the aquarium chemicals is that they release ammonia when they remove chloramine, but since ascorbic acid is an acid it should also neutralize the ammonia to ammonium ascorbate. After some experimenting, you should be able to find just the right amount needed to take care of both the chloramine and the ammonia.
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ThaMagnificent
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How do I connect the ro system to this shop sink? Each side is connected to the water by copper lines?
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slinkysaurus
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Getting a little off topic here.
Chlorine or Chloramine
+ Sodium
= sodium Chloride. Not what you want in your res or sticking to your roots.
Chloramine IS Chlorine and Amonia. So I don't see how adding that can bear any benefit as it allows a stable bond between metals in the water.
Chloramine also DOES NOT EVAPORATE the same way that Chlorine does just by bubbling. The bond has to be broken..I don't get why people can't grasp this! I'm trying to help and put a year of grows behind me to prove it.
Might I also remind folk that there are plenty of Marine Plants that live only in the purest of water. Treated by Prime and then PH corrected. Just as JumpMan23 suggested I try.
Chlorine or Chloramine
+ Sodium
= sodium Chloride. Not what you want in your res or sticking to your roots.
Chloramine IS Chlorine and Amonia. So I don't see how adding that can bear any benefit as it allows a stable bond between metals in the water.
Chloramine also DOES NOT EVAPORATE the same way that Chlorine does just by bubbling. The bond has to be broken..I don't get why people can't grasp this! I'm trying to help and put a year of grows behind me to prove it.
Might I also remind folk that there are plenty of Marine Plants that live only in the purest of water. Treated by Prime and then PH corrected. Just as JumpMan23 suggested I try.
Budley Doright
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Easy peasy, shark bite or compression fitting to feed filter plus a dishwasher fitting for drain. There will be instructions with unit, just be sure to have a shut off before unit and a bipass if you think you'll need it. If your on a well you may booster pump
ThaMagnificent
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But the sink is connected directly via the copper pipes. One pipe is cold and the other hot right into each lever on the sink. No house like in the diy videos where they use the compression fitting and slip in the feeder line for the ro system
Budley Doright
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Cut the pipe and put a shark bite t in with what ever size of tee is required, they even come with shutoff if you want.
ThaMagnificent
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What about a temp setup like a screw in valve on to the faucet?
I have dyna gro and bloom as well as maxi crop liquid kelp all of them have chlorine listed as ingredients. If people google plant micro nutrients it's comes up in the first list you see.
jarvild
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ThaMagnificent
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Just screw it in the pipe and slip in the ro intake line?
BobCajun
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Here's some more info I found. Turns out that sulfur compounds, like those used in the aquarium water conditioners, are oxygen scavengers, which would not be good for hydro systems where aeration is important. Here's the link. It's mostly about using vitamin C to dechlorinate, but it also summarized the other methods. Here's the part about the sulfur compounds.
It also says you can use sodium ascorbate instead of ascorbic acid. That would avoid pH drop, though calcium ascorbate would be better for plants and is also available. You would still have fluoride in the tap water though, not sure how bad that would be for plants. For that you really would need a deionizer or RO.
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slinkysaurus
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They scavenge oxygen only until the process is complete
...which is why mixing is to be done prior to putting it in your tank with fish/plants
Never the less, lots of good info from all angles forming in this thread =]
...which is why mixing is to be done prior to putting it in your tank with fish/plants
Never the less, lots of good info from all angles forming in this thread =]
Olive Drab Green
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I tend to only use tap. Purified water tends to leave my plants unhappy and lacking certain micronutrients. I noticed it a day and a half after giving it some spring water during my first grow.