dozens of good guys with guns fail to stop single bad guy with gun

Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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bluntmassa1 said:
We can keep the military at home and reduce spending like a bastard and not keep so many full time soldiers. Russia won't attack us if so they certainly won't win. And we don't need that many police just legalize drugs and let the people be free. Then people will like police because they would only go after bad people. The government won't need half the tax money and we can have free health care for all. Possibly even free electricity for all Tesla seemed to think it was possible but the government has a bunch of his work classified.

We can cut the government down to 1/16th of the size and live much better than any other nation. But we won't live better with militarized police and endless wars.
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Not too shabby! Not sure if legalizing ALL drugs is a good idea.
Hmm... not sure if pulling out of Afghanistan is a good idea either. We should have let Russia keep that shit hole & kill all of the fucking mujahedeen.
 
bluntmassa1

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Chunky Stool said:
Not too shabby! Not sure if legalizing ALL drugs is a good idea.
Hmm... not sure if pulling out of Afghanistan is a good idea either. We should have let Russia keep that shit hole & kill all of the fucking mujahedeen.
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Legalize all drugs you will have less heroin overdoses and all they can have clean heroin and dosed to the MG instead of the street crap were you don't know what you have and half the overdoses are from fentanyl anyway which is a super strong synthetic opioid. We can even tax the drug stores and use that tax money for state funded rehab we need it for alcohol anyway. Meth is basically legal already they give it to our children for ADHD only it is much cleaner and safer.

We have no reason to stay in Afghanistan the Afghan people are not a threat never were Osama was a Saudi Arabian national living in Afghanistan at the time. Plus I don't really believe 9/11 as building 7 was never hit yet fell like demolition. But even if it was legit we got Osama plus our revenge 100 fold.
 
Fogdog

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Dr.Pecker said:
Most gun related deaths are suicides. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm When Americans think about deaths from guns, we tend to focus on homicides. But the problem of gun suicide is inescapable: More than 60 percent of people in this country who die from guns die by suicide. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/upshot/gun-deaths-are-mostly-suicides.html
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Brilliant detective work. You are right in that suicide is easier when a person owns a gun. Knowing you have one makes me feel cozy inside.

It's the other 40% that is unnecessary and exceeds by far the rates of the rest of the developed western countries.

Is this when you say that automobile deaths are a big problem so why don't we ban cars?
 
blu3bird

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bearkat42 said:
Impossible. Texas is full of "open carry" patriots. This whole time I've been listening to these morons saying that if they were allowed to carry, they would stop attacks like this. Yet when I turned on the news, all of the footage that I saw showed nothing but a bunch of wannabe "cowboys" running like bitches. Needless to say, I was shocked. I mean this is "rough and tumble" Texas after all. I've said to myself a million times, "Something like this could NEVER happen in Texas!". I have now lost all faith in humanity, because if this can happen in a state with the toughest talking ombre's this side of the Pecos river, we're obviously ALL fucked!! :o
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Oh shit, here you go.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20160712-robber-with-ak-47-was-shot-by-waffle-house-customer-desoto-police-say.ece
 
Dr.Pecker

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testiclees said:
Cool story but had that guy been killing folks he would not have been followed out and baited(i would do exact same) then shot.
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He pointed an ak47 at the guy after he robbed people in the restaurant. The man was afraid his wife would show up and get hurt. You're just pissed because another black guy got shot. He got exactly what he deserved. If nobody had a ccw he would just keep doing that shit. I doubt that that was his first robbery.
 
Dr.Pecker

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Fogdog said:
Brilliant detective work. You are right in that suicide is easier when a person owns a gun. Knowing you have one makes me feel cozy inside.

It's the other 40% that is unnecessary and exceeds by far the rates of the rest of the developed western countries.

Is this when you say that automobile deaths are a big problem so why don't we ban cars?
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That's my point we have crazy people that need mental health help. They shouldn't have a gun in the first place. Your attitude is everyone with a gun is going to shoot someone. Give me one example of a sane person committing mass homicide.
 
testiclees

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Dr.Pecker said:
He pointed an ak47 at the guy after he robbed people in the restaurant. The man was afraid his wife would show up and get hurt. You're just pissed because another black guy got shot. He got exactly what he deserved. If nobody had a ccw he would just keep doing that shit. I doubt that that was his first robbery.
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Let me break down why you're a fucking half wit: #1 I said the robber did not shoot or kill anyone. Had he shot the folks in the waffle house, plainly Doc Holiday couldnt have followed him out, baited and dropped him. #2 really this line indicates your a common piece of shit, half wit is secondary "You're just pissed because another black guy got shot" ya human beings getting shot pisses me off.

 
Dr.Pecker

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testiclees said:
Let me break down why you're a fucking half wit: #1 I said the robber did not shoot or kill anyone. Had he shot the folks in the waffle house, plainly Doc Holiday couldnt have followed him out, baited and dropped him. #2 really this line indicates your a common piece of shit, half wit is secondary "You're just pissed because another black guy got shot" ya human beings getting shot pisses me off.
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Now I'm a piece of shit! Don't forget how nice of a person you are.

UncleBuck said:
well, thanks for admitting that you were wrong.
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?????
 
Dr.Pecker

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testiclees said:
Bro are you on rock? Youve got a reputation as huge, idiot asshole. You post a claim without a citation. WHO the fuck will respond with anything but a cringe at your bullshit, ass clown.
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Now I'm a huge idiot asshole. I'm done with this thread you guys are unreasonable communists.
 
Fogdog

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Dr.Pecker said:
That's my point we have crazy people that need mental health help. They shouldn't have a gun in the first place. Your attitude is everyone with a gun is going to shoot someone. Give me one example of a sane person committing mass homicide.
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My attitude is not what you claim. I'm saying that the number of deaths and injuries related to firearms is extremely high compared to UK or Canada and if gun owners don't claim this issue as theirs to solve then eventually the super majority of non gun owners will.

You won't like it then and you will cry like a bitch. I will laugh at you.


Crazy people? Are you saying that the only issue with firearm related deaths are mad mass shooters?

In the first half of 2016, there have been 342 killed and 867 injured in mass shootings. This compared to about 7000 dead and 15,000 injured by firearms in total. The suicides you talk about are about half the deaths (roughly 3500). A fraction of second person shooting deaths are due to mass shooters. Even if we factor out suicide, no other developed western nation is even close to our numbers for deaths due to firearms when normalized to the the size of their population.


This is the breakdown of firearm related deaths and injuries for 2016:

2016
Gun violence and crime incidents are collected/validated from 1,500 sources daily – incidents and their source data are found at the gunviolencearchive.org website.

This site contains a monthly breakdown of injuries and fatalities by month:https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

The gun lobby and GOP congress can't be serious about keeping guns out of the hands of the unstable. The have blocked funding and created a ridiculously short period for performing background checks. The gun owning coalition are speaking out of both sides of their mouths. "Crazies shouldn't have guns" and "I don't support adequate funding or time for performing background checks"
 
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