Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

DesertGrow89

DesertGrow89

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Dr. Greenthumb OG Kush about two weeks intwo flower, the plant pictured is a male, he's gonna run for a while and I plan on collecting some pollen. Cover crop seems to be keeping the leaves green, the two females I chopped the cc and top dressed with a couple of amendments, but they aren't transpiring as well as this one. Thinking I shouldn't have removed it but grow and learn.. Studies show that mulched soils absorb water two to four times better than bare soils (Plaster, Soil Science and Management)

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natureboygrower

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I made up a soil based on buildasoils recipe.1/3 compost,1/3 happy frog,1/3 chunky perlite.basalt,glacial dust,neem cake,kelp meal,crab shells,oyster flour.supplemented with only my ewc teas and top dressing. best grow up to date for me! nice yields and really nice tasting/burning buds.especially after curing.I messed up a bit and pulled the plants root ball and all.tried shaking off as much dirt back into the planter as possible.what should I add to break down over winter?I thought I'd add a little more compost and happy frog,would it hurt to add some of the dusts (basalt and rock dust)and wait on the kelp meal until spring?I know the kelp meal doesn't take as long to become beneficial but the dusts can takes months.any thoughts?ty
 
DesertGrow89

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natureboygrower said:
I made up a soil based on buildasoils recipe.1/3 compost,1/3 happy frog,1/3 chunky perlite.basalt,glacial dust,neem cake,kelp meal,crab shells,oyster flour.supplemented with only my ewc teas and top dressing. best grow up to date for me! nice yields and really nice tasting/burning buds.especially after curing.I messed up a bit and pulled the plants root ball and all.tried shaking off as much dirt back into the planter as possible.what should I add to break down over winter?I thought I'd add a little more compost and happy frog,would it hurt to add some of the dusts (basalt and rock dust)and wait on the kelp meal until spring?I know the kelp meal doesn't take as long to become beneficial but the dusts can takes months.any thoughts?ty
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Top of the morning to you natureboy. This is what I have from notes on this thread:

Re-amend @
(1/8 cup, of each from the "food mix", and 1/2 cup glacial rock dust, or "mineral mix")

I wonder what happened to cann and headtreep and how their grows are doing..
 
elfo777

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I had some thrips in this grow and I want to reuse my soil. It's not too bad, but I was wondering if it's bad to reuse it after having this kind of bugs.
 
elfo777

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elkamino said:
How bad is the infestation? If its not out of control I've had thrips and have easily controlled them easily with neem oil.

That and more pest control options discussed here:
http://ipm.ucanr.edu/PDF/PESTNOTES/pnthrips.pdf
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Its not bad, the worst one is a small plant and it has only a few White spots. Im sure its not mites but a lot of my outdoor (no cannabis plants) have it too. I sprayed pyrethrin making sure I don't mist my buds
 
DonTesla

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elfo777 said:
Thanks but I can't get nematodes here :I I heard about diatomaceous earth, would this do the trick?
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Great stuff, loaded with bene minerals like Si iron etc
Stops a lot of bug reproduction cycles

Two inch layers, with optional sand layer :hump:

Avoid dust and shoot for happy rocks or similar de rock product

Also, minute pirate bugs will do the trick

They also hate when you plant garlic at the base of the plant right around the stem, or use herbal sprays

@ACitizenofColorado got the recipe ?? He just went thru this via a friend

If you need help sourcing bugs let us know!

We gots international suppliers all over, bro.

elfo777 said:
I had some thrips in this grow and I want to reuse my soil. It's not too bad, but I was wondering if it's bad to reuse it after having this kind of bugs.
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Hey buddy
Just helped a friend save some soil
I would:

Inoculate with LAB
Plant garlic bulbs in the soil
Spray soil with an herbal tea that bugs hate
Get some frass (what country u in? Before we talk best brands)
Build a strong food web (DIY Ewc!! Fungal boosts too!)
Ensure all vitamins etc are in soil (aloe, coconut)
And put a top soil barrier down (coco disc, above post, etc)

They love blue and yellow, you can make traps knowing this
They thrive at 26-28 and are active over 16 celcius so u can use that to fuck wit em too

Humidity too

Now, any bug questions just hit me up bro!
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Durzil

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goodjoint said:
Hello all!

I've been using the Clackamas Coots soil mix recipe for a couple years, but always in fabric pots and never in plastic containers or bins.
I had mold (powdery mildew/botrytis/bud rot) during the last couple weeks of flower last time and I am looking to do everything in my power to stop this from happening again.
At the time, I purchased and tried a massive $300, 50-pint dehumidifier and all it did was heat up the room like a mofo and it didn't remove any moisture! (Frigidaire FAD504DWD)

I am thinking that the fabric pots are contributing to the high humidity issues since they breathe from all directions...? Could this be true?

I'm pondering about choosing 18 gallon plastic totes to grow in this time, rather than 7.5 gallon smart pots. I know there will be more soil, but with a thick layer of mulch and plastic walls to the container, I'm thinking that it'll improve the high humidity issues. These 18 gallon containers would be my largest pots yet and I plan to run them true no-til style (I haven't actually re-used soil before - I make a new batch each time, but I want to change that this time...)

Also, I planning on using Blumats too, so I don't ever have water dripping from the pots and onto the floor.

Anyone else here have issues with powedery mildew or botrytis in ROLS? Do you think plastic pots will keep less moisture in the air?

Thank you for your help. This thread is such a great one!
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My first dehumidifier put off lots of heat but put zero water into the bin and was defective. If it's not full in 24 hours it's not working in my experience so have them replace it. They do put off lots of heat but the bonus is it keeps the AC going during lights off for extra dehumidifying. The smart pots will up humidity but once you control that more I bet it helps.
 
calliandra

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elkamino said:
Fascinating time lapse of vermicomposting for those into this kinda thing
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Yeah cool innit!
I saw this happening in my now formerly no-till when I had to up-pot - I had a 4cm layer of quartz sand on my soil, and after 45 days it was getting nicely plowed into the soil by worms (and maybe also the growing action of the roots?)
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Since I also saw that my lava rock had sunk to the bottom of the pot (over 2 grows), it got me wondering about aeration in no-till... and maybe treating it like any other amendment that gets topdressed... definitely still needs more thought tho haha :bigjoint:
 
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