So what organic soil mix do you advise ?
Coot's mix ?
I'm recycling my soil at this point. I just mix in fresh compost/castings/aeration (perlite is popular). An organic potting soil will work as a launching point. Or get a small bag or bale of peat moss, perlite, and compost or castings. Composted cow manure will do you cant get the other.
Then you want something to make sure your soil pH isn't too acidic so you want some lime or oyster shell flour. These add calcium and raise the soil pH. If you're buying a potting soil this is unnecessary as most our already prelimed.
You'd be surprised how far that mix could take you, especially if you've got a good quality compost and apply worm casting teas every week or two.
To really make your plants sing though mix in some neem cake or neem seed meal...
Fish meal, crab meal, kelp meal, langbenite (sulfate of potash magnesia).
Mix in 1/2 cup per cubic foot for each.
Every few weeks top dress with a cup of worm castings and 1/4 cup of kelp.
Your girls will sing.
100% agreemy bad, I apologize.
No room in the world for more of that.
In my defense though, most of us organic/natural growers have a true distaste for the subcool techniques and recipe, as they are fundamentally flawed.
So we see layered soil, and we immediately start flaming away.
Because the technique and recipe was made a permanent sticky, oftentimes new organic growers go to it, and then get frustrated when their plants don't come out as well as their hydro grows did, and for that, many go back to using chelated chemical grows.
We need to get rid of the subcool-recipe sticky and make a simple compost and vermicompost sticky.
Both of those are massively more integral than a layered mix, predicated on water soluble nutrients..
It's be like if you had a buddy that never has had sushi in his life, so you go buy him sushi from a grocery store or something.
Not gonna be the same experience as a classy Japanese sushi place, in fact he may not even like it.
i believe long ago he was a supporter here and was a mod , majority of our subforums haven't changed since we opened in 2006 except ones we have added throughout the years.100% agree
@sunni excuse me miss, but why have subs misinformation being the main sticky and gateway for newbs into organics when its giving the organic path a bad name.. There are many way better growers than sub that we could exemplify and make bold choices and guides from. I'm sure the big boys on here would be happy to cooperate and rewrite the big intro to organic soil guide, especially if we got to put our name up there !!!
Grease Hyroot DP DB Vnsmkr RastaRoy MistaRasta myself Chronikool and many more, like Stow etc, all probably better sources of info than Subcool. I think it would be really good for those switching over if they had a simpler, sounder guide.
It's like Rev teaching new ppl about 15 spikes and layers, he's just in so deep he doesn't know how crazy he is and how his old habits are coming into play.
We should get a guide written by someone who has learned organics their whole life, not from someone trying to learn it themselves (the blind leading the blind)
Thanks for your considering, Sunny
Much respect
thats neither here nor there, regardless of our growing style we work for the forum to ensure the forum works properly whether we grow organic or not at all doesnt impact how the forum isI doubt riu staff is organic.. I've like never seen a staff member chime in with organics lol
I can't imagine having to worry about that bullshit. CPS and shit. I feel for you, girl. Like, legit. Hope all's well with the family.i believe long ago he was a supporter here and was a mod , majority of our subforums haven't changed since we opened in 2006 except ones we have added throughout the years.
ill bring it up to the main staff and see if theyd like to change it but i doubt they would remove an entire subforum heres why its got nothing to do with personal interest it has to do with the users who still use this forum ie:, too many lost posts, which would affect everyone whos posted in them by lowering their post counts, like counts and more on
its not as easy as simply removing a subforum due to
thats neither here nor there, regardless of our growing style we work for the forum to ensure the forum works properly whether we grow organic or not at all doesnt impact how the forum is
and i grew veganic if you must know back in the day i no longer grow or smoke due to my current situation
i dont personally do the web admining, i just know a little bit why they are hesitant in this specific question as to why it would be a problemI can't imagine having to worry about that bullshit. CPS and shit. I feel for you, girl. Like, legit. Hope all's well with the family.
Oh neat! Much respecti believe long ago he was a supporter here and was a mod , majority of our subforums haven't changed since we opened in 2006 except ones we have added throughout the years.
ill bring it up to the main staff and see if theyd like to change it but i doubt they would remove an entire subforum heres why its got nothing to do with personal interest it has to do with the users who still use this forum ie:, too many lost posts, which would affect everyone whos posted in them by lowering their post counts, like counts and more on
its not as easy as simply removing a subforum due to
thats neither here nor there, regardless of our growing style we work for the forum to ensure the forum works properly whether we grow organic or not at all doesnt impact how the forum is
and i grew veganic if you must know back in the day i no longer grow or smoke due to my current situation
the majority of the mods dont even chime in on growing anymore theres a few of course but the main staff doesnt we have too much work to doOh neat! Much respect
Thanks for getting back to us and offering to bring it up, Sunni. Despite its colossal effects, I'm sure we can save the best posts and if likes is the only things holding back the movement at that time, then that'd be kinda strange.. (People's popularity is more important than proper information for those about to invest hard earned money and time into learning a life changing skill that may impact someone's life via caregiving?)the majority of the mods dont even chime in on growing anymore theres a few of course but the main staff doesnt we have too much work to do
well it isnt so much popularity it completely messes up accountsThanks for getting back to us and offering to bring it up, Sunni. Despite its colossal effects, I'm sure we can save the best posts and if likes is the only things holding back the movement at that time, then that'd be kinda strange.. (People's popularity is more important than proper information for those about to invest hard earned money and time into learning a life changing skill that may impact someone's life via caregiving?)
I hope we prevail.
Thanks for voicing us..
How did the veganics work out for you while you did it ? Any good sources for building a mean recipe?
Curious to that path,
Cheers, DT
Not to start drama, but people like Hyroot are why people like me stay away from the organic section, and are the ones truly giving it a bad name. You say Sub has bad info and then suggest replacing it with info from someone who repeatedly pushes ideas like "potassium is a sugar"? Doesn't really seem like an improvement to me. (I apologize to the other people you named, who may not share in the dissemination of misinformation that Hyroot partakes in, for any offence they may have accrued by association to him)100% agree
@sunni excuse me miss, but why have subs misinformation being the main sticky and gateway for newbs into organics when its giving the organic path a bad name.. There are many way better growers than sub that we could exemplify and make bold choices and guides from. I'm sure the big boys on here would be happy to cooperate and rewrite the big intro to organic soil guide, especially if we got to put our name up there !!!
Grease Hyroot DP DB Vnsmkr RastaRoy MistaRasta myself Chronikool and many more, like Stow etc, all probably better sources of info than Subcool. I think it would be really good for those switching over if they had a simpler, sounder guide.
It's like Rev teaching new ppl about 15 spikes and layers, he's just in so deep he doesn't know how crazy he is and how his old habits are coming into play.
We should get a guide written by someone who has learned organics their whole life, not from someone trying to learn it themselves (the blind leading the blind)
Thanks for your considering, Sunny
Much respect
Organic. Hydro can be organic too of courseOkay. So I've used soil for this run. And I'm curious about coco, perlite for my next run. Is it still organics if I'm going to continue with the bokashi and fish + kelp emulsion feeding with the coco mix?
Or is that considered hydro?
I don't like being associated with hyroot because of his or hers personal opinions...but that's another story for another forum lol.Not to start drama, but people like Hyroot are why people like me stay away from the organic section, and are the ones truly giving it a bad name. You say Sub has bad info and then suggest replacing it with info from someone who repeatedly pushes ideas like "potassium is a sugar"? Doesn't really seem like an improvement to me. (I apologize to the other people you named, who may not share in the dissemination of misinformation that Hyroot partakes in, for any offence they may have accrued by association to him)
I did that with extraction type teas with LAB/enzimes & a host of flours ,kelp,alfalfa , grd fish did some EWC teas alternating between themOkay. So I've used soil for this run. And I'm curious about coco, perlite for my next run. Is it still organics if I'm going to continue with the bokashi and fish + kelp emulsion feeding with the coco mix?
Or is that considered hydro?