Pile of curing weed

BobCajun

BobCajun

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DankBudzzz said:
I'm aware there are errors as I replied on my phone and didn't care enough to correct them, wasted enough time responding to your stupidity. Your level of maturity is well represented in this one statement...
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Yeah yeah, sure sure, didn't care to correct them. As if. Some people just don't appreciate being given useful information, and you're one. However, I'm sure there are some silent people out there who DO. Anyone who doesn't appreciate my tips is free not to use them. No griping necessary.
 
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Lucky Luke

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BobCajun said:
Nice to that one person recognizes that. People shouldn't even call it curing, but drying.
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So then what would you call flowers that have been dried for a few days but have not been cured? Keep in mind that when curing we generally dont want to loose or gain to much moisture. Reason the Boveda packs are so popular.

Eg: Paint can be dry in under an hr but may take 24 hrs to cure. There is a difference between the two.
 
BobCajun

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Lucky Luke said:
So then what would you call flowers that have been dried for a few days but have not been cured? Keep in mind that when curing we generally dont want to loose or gain to much moisture. Reason the Boveda packs are so popular.

Eg: Paint can be dry in under an hr but may take 24 hrs to cure. There is a difference between the two.
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I would call them dried flowers. Why, what would you call them? Seems a little odd to me that air curing tobacco results in a brown product but people who follow the weed "curing" guides still have green weed. Since I've shown that it's relatively easy to produce brown weed I don't see why people would object to it. It also smells a lot better than that typical skunk smell you get with simple drying. It's just not very appealing. Mine has a deep rich smell, almost chocolaty. None of that skunk smell left at all.

Something about the heat curing that I didn't mention before is that it take about 5-6 days if you want to get the sugar content down to about half what it is right after the 48 hour coloring phase. It takes time for bacteria to metabolize it to CO2. The coloring phase converts the starch to sugar but apparently it's smoother smoking if you get the sugar level down some. You'll lost some weight though, probably 10-15% because it turned to CO2. That's why I didn't go that long, just took about 3 days total. It's not too bad like that really, just a little harsh still. Not as harsh as uncured though.
 
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Lucky Luke

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BobCajun said:
I would call them dried flowers. Why, what would you call them? .
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I was asking you the question..I call buds that have only been dried- dried..and buds that have been cured- cured. But you already new that...
I have buds that, as your aware have been curing for approx 9 months. They haven't been drying for 9 months.

Another eg. Enamel paint. Dries fairly fast but takes days to cure and years to fully cure.
 
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a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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GG#4, coming up on 10 months cured. Sweet, smooth flavor, buds "amber up" after a few months in the jar at the right humidity. Sorry for shitty pic, my cam has a bit of purple tint to it, I think you still see the quality though.

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Dried until about 65% RH then into the jars for months with boveda packs. The time in the jar helps with the sweetness and smoothness. After months, buds are mostly decarboxylated and chlorophyll has degraded, but flavor and taste are still there because the RH has been controlled.

Over dried buds can't cure because the moisture content is too low. First you dry, then you cure. If you dry too much, the cure stops. Remoisturizing will help with texture and smokeability, but won't do anything to helping to continue that essential cure.
 
a senile fungus

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@BobCajun do/did you weigh the buds while they were still fresh, and then again after your process is complete? Care to share those numbers? I'm curious how much moisture/weight you lose over those 5-6 days of flue treatment. Thanks.
 
DankBudzzz

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BobCajun said:
Yeah yeah, sure sure, didn't care to correct them. As if. Some people just don't appreciate being given useful information, and you're one. However, I'm sure there are some silent people out there who DO. Anyone who doesn't appreciate my tips is free not to use them. No griping necessary.
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Haha you edited your post... you sir are shameful or am I just disabled because I can't spell Columbia
 
BobCajun

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a senile fungus said:
@BobCajun do/did you weigh the buds while they were still fresh, and then again after your process is complete? Care to share those numbers? I'm curious how much moisture/weight you lose over those 5-6 days of flue treatment. Thanks.
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How would you know how much water was in it to start with? I would have to dry half of it at room temperature and cure the other half and compare the weights of the two. Not gonna do that. Half my weed would be permanently green.

There's a way that you could avoid having any sugar in it at all, or very small amounts. All you have to do is leave the plants in darkness for 24 hours and all the starch will get used up for energy. You would lose weight though. Again, I don't know how much since I never did a comparison. Probably 15-30%. That may be why some people find their weed better if they leave it in darkness for 24-48 hours before harvest, same amount of THC but 15-30% less plant material so in effect the potency is increased by 15-30%. I try to get maximum weight so I chop right at the end of the light cycle before they can burn any up.
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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BobCajun said:
How would you know how much water was in it to start with? I would have to dry half of it at room temperature and cure the other half and compare the weights of the two. Not gonna do that. Half my weed would be permanently green.
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How to know how much water is in it to start with? Well if you're starting with freshcut green buds then you can presume they're at 100% RH in the jar. So you weigh them, that's your pre-flue weight. Then after you have completed your flue treatment you weigh them again, and you get a post-flue treated RH reading in the jar. I'm interested to see how much weight you're losing from the fresh buds to flue, and also what your final RH% is.

And yeah, a very basic tenet of science! is to have a control group so you have something to compare the results of your experiment with. Basic scientific method. The fact that you didn't do this but still spout off as if you had lab-verified scientific knowledge leads me (and others I presume) to label everything you do/say as suspect.

Your second paragraph is full of conjecture and made up numbers so I won't even address it.
 
BobCajun

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a senile fungus said:
How to know how much water is in it to start with? Well if you're starting with freshcut green buds then you can presume they're at 100% RH in the jar. So you weigh them, that's your pre-flue weight. Then after you have completed your flue treatment you weigh them again, and you get a post-flue treated RH reading in the jar. I'm interested to see how much weight you're losing from the fresh buds to flue, and also what your final RH% is.

And yeah, a very basic tenet of science! is to have a control group so you have something to compare the results of your experiment with. Basic scientific method. The fact that you didn't do this but still spout off as if you had lab-verified scientific knowledge leads me (and others I presume) to label everything you do/say as suspect.

Your second paragraph is full of conjecture and made up numbers so I won't even address it.
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I don't stop the curing process until it's dry, meaning 55% RH.
 
ILLwannabe

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Here are some more heat/sweat dryed buds that I've done. Initial smell is like clean fruit and laundry. Once broken apart they are very fragrant of fruit. The cannatonic is a bit different that the other two, it has more of a musk, not really a preferable smell, woodsy almost. Jackpot is by far the best smoke I've grown. Regular cure is still my preferred method, but the smokes off these buds is very enjoyable even if aesthetics aren't there.
 

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chchhazed

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Bob , I have read this entire thread , your method does seem foriegn most others that have posted . I see quite a bit of bud like this where Iam from , we call it mud bud... generally mud bud here is dried by your method before being buried for later in the year when prices are higher due to lack of supply , I also have to say that in general it is outdoor bud that is dried like this before burying as not many people are to keen on quick drying there nice chunky indoor like that or burying for that matter . I personally dont really enjoy the taste or flavour of mud bud , but some people I know do ... so i guess its all just a taste preference thing.. And your entitled to like the taste of whatever the hell you like as far as Iam concerned ... You've put up with alot of shit in this thread Bob , and you've stuck to youre opinion which is awesome .
 
Bugeye

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chchhazed said:
Bob , I have read this entire thread , your method does seem foriegn most others that have posted . I see quite a bit of bud like this where Iam from , we call it mud bud... generally mud bud here is dried by your method before being buried for later in the year when prices are higher due to lack of supply , I also have to say that in general it is outdoor bud that is dried like this before burying as not many people are to keen on quick drying there nice chunky indoor like that or burying for that matter . I personally dont really enjoy the taste or flavour of mud bud , but some people I know do ... so i guess its all just a taste preference thing.. And your entitled to like the taste of whatever the hell you like as far as Iam concerned ... You've put up with alot of shit in this thread Bob , and you've stuck to youre opinion which is awesome .
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Are you from New Jersey?
 
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