Pile of curing weed

BobCajun

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Exactly, they had the whole pile outside in the sun. I think Ed Rosenthal talks a little about it in the Growers Bible. it is either Sweet Curing or Sweat Curing.It is impressive at how many people wont leave their confort zone and try something different.
Yeah, sweat curing. It does also cause some fermentation, by being compressed together under the weight of the pile and excluding air. That's why it sometimes has an ammonia smell. That's a sign of fermentation. They mix the piles around so that all buds are in the middle at some point. Those are the ones that brown out first.
 

CannaBruh

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It's equally impressive how one might fail to understand that those who have already left their comfort zone, didn't care for it, found a way that when not rushed yields a better product (subjective?), and have yet to be convinced by anyone, with credibility (cup win, even one?), that this method yields a better product.
 

BobCajun

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It's equally impressive how one might fail to understand that those who have already left their comfort zone, didn't care for it, found a way that when not rushed yields a better product (subjective?), and have yet to be convinced by anyone, with credibility (cup win, even one?), that this method yields a better product.
Whatever. Your lungs dude.
 

Lucky Luke

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I didn't say it upsets me, just that the standard curing method clearly doesn't get rid of the chlorophyll, which is one of main things that makes weed harsh. I don't care that other people don't degreen their weed. I just personally consider their curing method inferior to mine for the reason I just explained. You aged your weed for 8 months and it's still green. I took 3 days with mine and it was not still green. I'll let people judge for themselves which is preferable. To me, green weed indicates that it was prepared by an amateur and I would not personally buy it.
I dont buy smoke. Havent bought smoke in well over a decade.

Maybe you failed to read my post about how smooth its becoming? Maybe you just dont want to know how your way and the more time consuming way (the science way) is a huge difference in quality?

Maybe you should spend some time and cure it properly and then in 6-12 months come back to us? How can you possibly keep saying your quick dry method is better than the long cure without a side by side test? You have never had any properly cured flowers before and it shows in your arguments. You may have even said so or insinuated you havent earlier in the tread.
Its all "Bro science" and insults. You need a baseline- for that you need to properly cure your own harvest.
You have made so many wrong and contradicting remarks and you want us to take you seriously? Please....


Man piled up pot in the sun to dry and moved it around occasionally because it was easy to do They move the center to the outside so the centre doesn't get so hot and combusts due to the composting effect.. You can dry hay that way to. Same as wheat, tomatoes ,olives..etc etc etc
Farmers used to guess how much water to put on there crops to once, cause it was the easy thing to do. Now its science. Times have changed.
 
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BobCajun

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I dont buy smoke. Havent bought smoke in well over a decade.

Maybe you failed to read my post about how smooth its becoming? Maybe you just dont want to know how your way and the more time consuming way (the science way) is a huge difference in quality?

Maybe you should spend some time and cure it properly and then in 6-12 months come back to us? How can you possibly keep saying your quick dry method is better than the long cure without a side by side test? You have never had any properly cured flowers before and it shows in your arguments. You may have even said so or insinuated you havent earlier in the tread.
Its all "Bro science" and insults. You need a baseline- for that you need to properly cure your own harvest.
You have made so many wrong and contradicting remarks and you want us to take you seriously? Please....


Man piled up pot in the sun to dry and moved it around occasionally because it was easy to do They move the center to the outside so the centre doesn't get so hot and combusts due to the composting effect.. You can dry hay that way to. Same as wheat, tomatoes ,olives..etc etc etc
Farmers used to guess how much water to put on there crops to once, cause it was the easy thing to do. Now its science. Times have changed.
As I said a few times, I like the color and the smell of heat cured. You can't get either of those the standard way so I don't have much reason to use it. The last batch actually came out smelling kind of chocolatey.
 

BobCajun

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Dont forget this method is being preached by someone that uses hardware store grade acetone to make extracts. Take what he says with a grain of salt.
It's pure enough. There's actually a lot more crud in tap water. There's also a lot more in nutrient solutions and the resulting plant material. It's also low toxicity. Hardware store acetone is the same as any other. It's all made the same way. It's just in a can instead of a bottle.

"Acetone can be found as an ingredient in a variety of consumer products ranging from cosmetics to processed and unprocessed foods. Acetone has been rated as a GRAS (Generally Recognized as Safe) substance when present in beverages, baked goods, deserts, and preserves at concentrations ranging from 5 to 8 mg/L (Oser and Ford, 1973). It can also be detected in measurable amounts in onions, grapes, cauliflower, tomatoes, milk, cheese, beans, peas, and other natural foods. Milk from dairy cattle may contain very high levels of acetone, ranging as high as 225 mg/L for the milk from hyperketo-nemic cows (Andersson and Lundström, 1984). Acetone has also been identified, but not quantified, in air samples from numerous plants and microorganisms. In addition to its elimination in the expired air of all mammals, acetone is excreted as a metabolic end-product by some bacteria (Clostridium butylicium), molds, fungi (Paecilaomyces variotii), and algae (Cryptomonas ovata palustris) (George et al., 1983; Sunnesson et al., 1996; Collins and Kalnins, 1966)." source
 

BobCajun

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You cited a 20 year old source that cites sources over 30+ years old.
Acetone is classified as a reproductive system toxin. http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927062
Maybe in huge amounts. It wouldn't have generally recognized as safe status if it was dangerous. It's no more dangerous or toxic than alcohol. Gotta use some kind of solvent, and CO2 extraction is too costly and complicated, so acetone it is.
 

Lucky Luke

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Maybe in huge amounts. It wouldn't have generally recognized as safe status if it was dangerous. It's no more dangerous or toxic than alcohol. Gotta use some kind of solvent, and CO2 extraction is too costly and complicated, so acetone it is.
I think you should read section 11 of the MSDS again...then read it again to let it sink in...

I hope you make your "patients" well aware of what your selling them and have them sign a stat dec to protect yourself.
You are dangerous and obviously have no clue. Why you are willingly poisoning people is criminal and disturbing

Stop being a "lets get it out to sell as fast as", "profit before Product" business/con/snake oil man. Do it properly and safely.
Your a classic example of why some people want more regulation in the industry.
 

BobCajun

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I think you should read section 11 of the MSDS again...then read it again to let it sink in...

I hope you make your "patients" well aware of what your selling them and have them sign a stat dec to protect yourself.
You are dangerous and obviously have no clue. Why you are willingly poisoning people is criminal and disturbing

Stop being a "lets get it out to sell as fast as", "profit before Product" business/con/snake oil man. Do it properly and safely.
Your a classic example of why some people want more regulation in the industry.
Relax. I'm the only one exposed to amounts that could cause any of the negative effects. I don't plan on reproducing so there's no reason for concern. I think YOU should read THIS again, because the amount mentioned is more than you could ever find in my oil after I heat it to thicken it up.It takes a while to get all the water dried out of it with heat, and acetone is much more volatile than water, so there's essentially none whatsoever remaining. The THC and other compounds are far worse than the amount of acetone left in there. Terpenes are actually more toxic than acetone and there's WAY more of it. Don't you think 15% deadly terpenes is a little more reason for concern than maybe 0.001 ppm acetone?

"Acetone has been rated as a GRAS (Generally Recognized as Safe) substance when present in beverages, baked goods, deserts, and preserves at concentrations ranging from 5 to 8 mg/L"
 

waterproof808

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"Generally recognized as safe" designation isn't used for deciding whether or not something is safe to be combusted and inhaled. The only grade of acetone suitable for food and medicine (not counting "medicine" that is combusted like cannabis) is USP or NF grade.
 

BobCajun

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"Generally recognized as safe" designation isn't used for deciding whether or not something is safe to be combusted and inhaled. The only grade of acetone suitable for food and medicine (not counting "medicine" that is combusted like cannabis) is USP or NF grade.
Read my post again, I put more stuff in it, about terpenes.
 

BobCajun

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heat cured acetone wash.... mmmmm
It's an unbeatable combination. The brown oil makes perfect soft hash when mixed with sifted leached trim/shake too, also cured of course. Perfect hash smell, rather than BHO type painty smell. Actually, I doubt if you could even make a usable hash from BHO because it would get crumbly after a day or two when it turned to wax. Acetone hash stays pliable indefinitely. I got a 30% hash yield from trim last time. I had leached trim powder saved from before though. You can only get about 10% powder out of trim. You need about twice that to mix with the oil. I guess you'd have to buy leached trim or bud from a BHO maker. Offer then 5 cents a gram or something.
 
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