chchhazed
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Yea I know this , just for op's sake I hope it bounces back for him , be a shame to loose what he had there aye
I must be out of my mind! I was having a bit of issue with foliage, here's what a newbie should not
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chchhazed
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When I said it was awesome I meant more along the lines of ballsy..... Brave , etc etc
Afgan King
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Agreed could bounce back seen it before
Feracon
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Im interested to see how this ends up. Monster cropping so you have a single outer canopy layer makes sense.
Going so far as to diminish your light receptive surface area like you have doesnt make sense to me.
Nutes are the vitamins, light is the food, food turns into bud and your plants are capable of processing less food now.
Keep us posted!
Going so far as to diminish your light receptive surface area like you have doesnt make sense to me.
Nutes are the vitamins, light is the food, food turns into bud and your plants are capable of processing less food now.
Keep us posted!
Alwayslearnin
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Well when I checked them out this morning when I went to out just to be sure everything go right at the switch. Also to turn the heater on and check rh, but they looked happy as can be. the bud sites all grew a little more than I expected for just over night, and they are looking good as far as the leaf too. That surprise me too, it's almost like I gave em steroids! Only I have no leaf that isn't part of the buds, you know the inner ones that make them go flat. I'll take some pics again in a couple days cause I think the old man might be on to something. But being a rookie I really don't want to toot quite yet.
there is another 5 weeks minimum and alot can still go wrong! You seem to be familiar with these strains, is it true that LA confidential likes heavy nutes? I read it on assume seed when I was checking out the strain before I tried it, but I haven't had the balls to give them a ass kickin dose.
Mainly because I'm using fox farm and though pretty happy with my girls but they are salty! Should I just stick to what I've been doing? using the fox farm feeding schedule. most of it anyway.
Alwayslearnin
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Well here it is my friend, when plants are in the wild they need every bit of light they can get from the sun. But the also provide protection from the elements too, some strains are so resilient to the cold they can be grown all they way to Dec. Not to menation the suns light creates more lumens and variety of light colors specifically red.
But in a room the only lumens you get are from your light source. and as far as elements, the only element these plants will ever know is what I give them. Though the plants will need them for the entire veg once the plant starts to change at a cellular level that starts the moment they go 12/12. a d just like you can train a plant to bend twist or what ever it makes sense to me to train the plant to take in the light through the buds ant the bud leaf, o need for suckers the use up nutes at this point the plant isn't going to stretch much more if at all. It will this week and when it does it will grow enough leaf and daily quickly I'm hoping any way.From what I saw they will be fine they grew quite a bit last night way more than I expected. I even noticed the bud sites grew along with the leaf that was not expected. But a good sign.
Uberknot
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There is a guy that does it this way everytime....100's of plants.
You do not lose you end up with really dense buds everywhere.
Of course strain does matter.
Alwayslearnin
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Well you saw what the looked like right after I stripped the m right, well this is after only 1 night recovery. keep in mind I super cropped every single branch on every plant some are almost as thick as the stock and the ones that were recently opened up thar were skinny but not stretched from light deprivation were cropped when I stripped them. I have to say they are very Heatley resilient plants to have snapped back after 12 hours from that amount off stress! sure hope it dosnt affect the potenecy.
Alwayslearnin
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Here is a before and after folks that are wanting to see this I will post new pictures daily so you can all see the magic happen in as real a time as I can provide ok. 
chchhazed
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Yea , that's sweet, I've trialled it myself before but never to that extent, I like to see how the plants react to differently to different things , I tripped and fell onto entire tent full one time ,2nd week into flower and I'm a big fat fucker , they looked dismal, but couple days later they were all good.
Chunky Stool
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Healthy leaves should only be removed when it's necessary for good air flow.
Alwayslearnin
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They are both hybrids LA confidential & Blue dream very resilient and seem to first timer friendly, either that or it's beginners luck! Either way they still have a min of 5 weeks time go and I will most likely be doing it again at the start of week 5 only when I do it won't be nearly as extreme cause they won't be producing any more leaves they will be exclusively putting 100% of its energy to the buds and they will need the ones that I leave after this second defoliation. I feel like all the information and books along with years if being around grows and learning all I could before I started was defiantly beneficial.
It's almost like it's the first time only not, but the actual growing in my own room with no help and using techniques like super cropping and intentional wounding to create highways for nutes and water instead of back roads, not to mention topping and fiming the shit out of them like every time I saw a new branches forming it was gone via fiming it. I had 2 pineapple express I had to give away cause in the process of trying to slow them down I topped them several times and what they were beginning to do was nuts! So the guy I gave them too transplanted them from 7g bucket to 40 gallon smart pots and is still vegging them. they are monstrous I wish I had pics of them he has them in a garage that has been renovated into a grow area 24×24×10 he has 2 led I believe equivalent to 1000watt I'm not positive, I do know they are suppose to be as effective as 1000watt hps as far as production during flowering along with 2 hps 1000wat open hooded lights. they look like outdoor super plants.
Anyway only time will prove the techniques work, I'm still nervous about messing them up but the old man that told me to do that to them has been growing since 68' so I kinda had to believe he would know.
Alwayslearnin
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Because
Because the whole point to the technique s to give the buds as much light as possible since during the flower stage growth for the plant stops and flowers are all that will continue to grow, but they need to have as intense a light as can be used.I have 3 1000wat hps covering basically a 6×6 area and the recovery from what I did has been quick
Uberknot
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yeah usually less than a week everything has settled in and new hairs and leaves for the buds are growing.
That is if you have healthy plants.....
I would not recommend doing this to plants that have issues.
NaturalFarmer
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In my opinion, you should only remove the fan leaves that are covering up potential bud sites and tuck the rest under the screen if you are doing scrog. If your plant were to have a deficiency with certain nutrients it will rob it from the older fan leaves first (unless you dont have ANY). This is kind of a canary in the coal mine for you to read your plants as well. Just a thought.
I like to defoliate anything in the screen before the flip and try to tuck anything while in flower but also not being afraid of removing anything that is being a bitch. Doing it 3 weeks into flower may extend your cycle I believe
I like to defoliate anything in the screen before the flip and try to tuck anything while in flower but also not being afraid of removing anything that is being a bitch. Doing it 3 weeks into flower may extend your cycle I believe
Uberknot
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yup it would extend things about a week probably.
Alwayslearnin
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I'm on now hurry