What else does Donald Trump believe?

tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Fogdog said:
Hmmm

I vote for the candidate that supports my positions in the primary and Democratic Party candidate in the general. Trying to second-guess and actually voting for somebody you think is "more winnable" I've heard discussed but never thought that it made a difference in the primary. What you suggest is something like a scene from Princess Bride.
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I voted for Sanders in the primary. Others said, 'he can't possibly win in this day and age, I'm voting for Clinton.'

They were known lifetime Democrats, take from that what you will.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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TacoMac said:
It may be good coverage, but that's not going to matter. It's going to cost so much nobody will be able to afford it. What's more, the VAST majority of people will be excluded from that coverage due to pre-existing conditions which were eliminated under Obamacare.

That is going to lead to around 50 million Americans priced out of it completely and another approximately 30 million eliminated for pre-existing conditions (and I'm one of them).

That of course will cut the profits of the insurance carriers because the literally have nobody to sell their policies to. People are either eliminated outright for previous conditions or can't possibly afford the inflated premiums.

That of course means that the insurance carriers are going to jack the premiums of those left SKY FUCKING HIGH to try to make up the shortfall.

You don't have to be a Nobel Laureate economist to see it coming.
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OK, we aren't Nobel Laureate economists and we can see it coming to one extent or another. Why don't the 47% that voted for drump see this?

I would point out to you that the ACA no longer exists or won't in a year or so. It was good coverage and affordable. But that's moot.

My question to you is, what happens to this administration when the pigeons come home to roost? If people are livid about ACA price increases, what do you think will happen when -- as you predict -- premiums show up that are double or more in 2018?

That said, 25% increases with 18M losing coverage are bad enough. What you predict is much worse. I'd appreciate a link to something that backs this claim up, by the way. Not that I doubt you but I'd like to understand where these increases are coming from.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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tangerinegreen555 said:
I voted for Sanders in the primary. Others said, 'he can't possibly win in this day and age, I'm voting for Clinton.'

They were known lifetime Democrats, take from that what you will.
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I think we are in agreement here. Sanders was no radical leftist. To me, Clinton was a moderate but conservative candidate. I was comfortable with either candidate but chose Sanders in the primary too. I did hear people say "Sanders could not be elected". Maybe you are right about this. To me, choosing based upon elect-ability is too hard to figure out. If my life were on the line, I'd die like the Sicilian. Some would say that anybody who chose Clinton using this as a guide chose wrongly too.
 
cool2burn

cool2burn

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My taint smells just putting that out there. It might damage the environment so someone should defiantly be sniffing it.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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tangerinegreen555 said:
I have a theory that Dems have tended to support conservative Dems because they think they'll have a better chance to win in this 30-year-to-the-right cycle of American politics. I've heard people actually say that IRL.

But their core beliefs actually never change.
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The Democratic party followed the money, not their constituents. That's why they lost.

Justice Democrats; we will build a progressive platform and force the establishment wing to come to US.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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cool2burn said:
Listen when i illegally enter your house squat and make you support me then you can try to charge my wife who runs this house lol.
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home invasion is a major felony, entering the country illegally is a misdemeanor.

and all those undocumented workers paying taxes under false social security numbers are supporting your welfare mooching ass, kid.
 
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