Greasemonkey's Compost Pile
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greasemonkeymann
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nah, the clones I took are already too old for that, this is what happens when I run seeds and interrupt my methodsme neither!
so they're not aboard on the 2g run you're doing next?
so they'll probably go into 3 gals, they are in 1 gals already, and have been for about a month
when I run from seeds and do pheno-hunts it screws it all up
but it is what it is, and I am addicted to the thrill of the hunt
calliandra
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Ah but then you do have them growing
These are crosses of yours with that dark-balled one from a while back?
greasemonkeymann
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good memory!Ah but then you do have them growing
These are crosses of yours with that dark-balled one from a while back?
some are, the male I crossed with the tranquil elephant, the bluefrost, the pineapple hashplant, and the fruity toot, but for some reason I only got seeds from the tranquil elephant, and pineapplehash
I want to run the rest of my pink lotus to see if I can get another male similar to that one, I've never seen a dark frosty male like that one before
but after seeing the sisters it doesn't surprise me that he was "dark-balled"..
haha
calliandra
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wasn't quite sure though, and half wrong - but hey, yeah! It could've all fallen into a black hole too
ah ok so the pink lotus growing now are his sisters, and the 2g sog contains his offspring, if I got that right
Anyway, looking forward to see how they do!
greasemonkeymann
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heh, sorta, I don't have anything germinated from the pink lotus dad, those seeds are still un sprouted, the ones I have in 2 gals are the clones that I took from the moms before floweringwasn't quite sure though, and half wrong - but hey, yeah! It could've all fallen into a black hole too
ah ok so the pink lotus growing now are his sisters, and the 2g sog contains his offspring, if I got that right
Anyway, looking forward to see how they do!
so the pink lotus dad is/was their brother.
a lil complicated
calliandra
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hmmmm
nah it just depends on how you define the relationship between moms and clones.
Just saying "moms" & thinking about when you took the clones clarifies that.
So BlackBalls is the current tranquil elephant's & pineapplehash's stepfather, whilst he's the pink lotuses' brother.
And the pink lotuses are elephant & pineapple's stepaunts, but totally unrelatd to the rest of the SOG.
There ya go, all sorted
How about some pix?
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Vnsmkr
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yeah I keep meaning to go out early in the morning with a couple empty soil bags and collect leaves for leaf compost then I'll just add the coffee grounds we collect along with some LAB and brown (and green) leaves from the breadfruit tree in front of house
ShLUbY
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Elaine's recipe, by mass weight as much as possible, 50% high carbon material, 40% Greens/nitrogen, and10% high nitrogen (things with a C:N ratio of 10 carbons to 1 nitrogen)
if you get to check it out, she has a really good process for turning the pile, and logical reasons for turning it at certain temps. really great listen, lots of crucial concepts for turning compost that quickly. it's no wonder why mine takes so long
DonBrennon
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I found the part about weed suppression fascinating. Creating a more bacterial compost creates more nitrites, which weeds need to be able to germinate, whereas a more fungal dominant compost creates ammonia which vege's prefer. Turns out cannabis really is a weed, cos I'm certain from my research that it prefers nitrites to ammonia too. Maybe this is why EWC works so well with ganja.
good stuff so far, gonna get back to watching the rest of it now
good stuff so far, gonna get back to watching the rest of it now
ShLUbY
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from what elaine is saying in the many videos i've watched over the last few days, is that the bacteria in the soil basically don't need any help from us once we get them going and keep them fed with amendments (since we don't really have any/much sand/silt/clay in the indoor soil) So we're better to focus on breeding fungi, nematodes, and microarthropods to balance the food chain a lil bit.I found the part about weed suppression fascinating. Creating a more bacterial compost creates more nitrites, which weeds need to be able to germinate, whereas a more fungal dominant compost creates ammonia which vege's prefer. Turns out cannabis really is a weed, cos I'm certain from my research that it prefers nitrites to ammonia too. Maybe this is why EWC works so well with ganja.
good stuff so far, gonna get back to watching the rest of it now
I think there is a place for fungal when flowering cannabis as that is when it needs the P and K most (but i could be very wrong lol
). EWC keeps the bacterial component high, and can also have fungal components as well by feeding a fair amount of high carbon materials rather than just mostly food scraps.I'm thinking about sending her team an email, and asking them what kind of ingredients they think my soil might be lacking to help improve biology (and nutrition). can't hurt!
calliandra
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erm I'd contest that logic, at least for my soil
I think it's not that we don't have "enough" sand/silt/clay---
How many microns of whatever will the plant really need? How many billions of years till we use it all up? So how long will a handful that "somehow" got into my - lets assume we're pretty much growing in pure leaf mold like Grease - last?
Instead, I think the limiting factor is that we are in containers and our microherd isn't complete due to that. Just think how much more aeration our soils need in pots than outdoors in the veggie bed! So we are cycling nutrients on a more "shallow" level, not mining so much in the realm of the "total extractable mineral content" but more on the level of the "exchangeable" one (referring to that graphic Ingham always uses to explain why a chemical soil test doesn't really tell you the true state of affairs in your soil).
Just my current "theory" as to whats going on there though
hahaIdk why it makes me cringe to think my weed is a weed LOLI found the part about weed suppression fascinating. Creating a more bacterial compost creates more nitrites, which weeds need to be able to germinate, whereas a more fungal dominant compost creates ammonia which vege's prefer. Turns out cannabis really is a weed, cos I'm certain from my research that it prefers nitrites to ammonia too. Maybe this is why EWC works so well with ganja.
good stuff so far, gonna get back to watching the rest of it now
Please do expand on how your research led you to that conclusion?
ShLUbY
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the majority of what our biology is consuming from our hand crafted indoor soils is the amendments and compost that we put in right? sure we have some "dirt" (the sand silt clay component) that makes it in there from the turned compost pile, or maybe a grabbed a handful or two and put it in the pot... but, did most of us not stuff it full of neem, kelp, alfalfa, rock dusts, OSF, egg shells, ect. ect. ect.??? native soils outdoors are all made out of 100% parent materials! sand, silt, clay, rocks, pebbles, (and some organic matter!). that's all i was sayingerm I'd contest that logic, at least for my soil
I think it's not that we don't have "enough" sand/silt/clay---
How many microns of whatever will the plant really need? How many billions of years till we use it all up? So how long will a handful that "somehow" got into my - lets assume we're pretty much growing in pure leaf mold like Grease - last?
i wasn't implying that we don't put "enough" of those things in, but rather we put in other things to replace their function (the amendments).but i totally agree with you on saying that there'll literally be plenty of nutrition in native soils for millions of years to come! I'd like to start experimenting with putting more of that native soil in these mixes... especially now that I'm going to try and get switched over to notill. should we be trying to make horizon layers "mocking" the native soils? should we be doing passive hydro systems where the water is drawn, for the most part, from below rather than poured on from above? pretty fascinating stuff! Passive hydro just seems soooooo perfect for no till indoor container gardening.
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ShLUbY
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thats crazy mo. im definitely not surprised though. amazing how long it takes for dumb mistakes to to be erased off of this planet isn't it???
ShLUbY
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a quick google search showed the half life of DDT is around 15 years or so.... it says 2-15.... but we all know its 15 lol
Vnsmkr
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1/2 lives are something most people don't really have a grasp on in my opinion Shluby, you may but most dont. I worked around radioactive materials for a decade so I have a little bit of one. 1/2 lives don't really mean shit if the amounts are that high. So, If I dump 1000 kg in the half life time (15 years in this case) Im still at or equal to 500 kg....the more waste, the longer half life. It just keeps stretching...