WaxertheRadical
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NOOOOOO.
Larry's Fall/Winter seed tests
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sandhill larry
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It sucks, but I gained some valuable knowledge. When it gets down into the 20's, they do need protection. My BIL's Peach were under taller trees, so they got no frost on them, yet out of 11-12 of them, only 4 lived, and 3 of them were male. Cold itself can kill younger plants, and the stress can make them males. Cold and frost can kill plants that are starting to flower. Cold and frost can burn the buds and make them harsh.NOOOOOO.
CallmeTex
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Sorry your plants got nipped Sandhill, I bet you would have good luck by using tomato cages for each plant the wrapping them in frost cloth whenever you know the cold is coming. You can even leave some of the lighter row cover on and still get pretty good light tot he buds.
sandhill larry
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I'm going to try paper bags when it gets down to freezing. They are pretty scattered, so it will be a pain. I might tough it out next winter and do a small greenhouse in the woods.
WaxertheRadical
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Maybe a bit of a noob statement here but I still don't quite get how that 'no frost under the tree' thing works. Isn't frost just frozen condensation from the atmosphere humidity? That being said, shouldn't there be frost under the tree as well? Or is it that the moisture freezes mid air which then falls becasuse of density and settles on the ground. The latter makes sense to me but any insight would be nice...
Vnsmkr
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Frost forms when air near the ground has cooled below its saturation temperature (which causes water vapor in the air to begin condensing) and has also cooled to below freezing (which means frost, rather than dew, will form).
At night, most objects get cold because they are radiating heat energy. The temperature of objects that do not contain much stored heat (like blades of grass) will fall rapidly and, in turn, chill the air immediately in contact with them. When saturation occurs at below-freezing temperatures in the chilled air, frost forms.
However, under a tree the dense canopy of leaves interferes with the radiational-cooling process. The tree leaves actually radiate heat downward, and grass underneath will accumulate little if any frost
At night, most objects get cold because they are radiating heat energy. The temperature of objects that do not contain much stored heat (like blades of grass) will fall rapidly and, in turn, chill the air immediately in contact with them. When saturation occurs at below-freezing temperatures in the chilled air, frost forms.
However, under a tree the dense canopy of leaves interferes with the radiational-cooling process. The tree leaves actually radiate heat downward, and grass underneath will accumulate little if any frost
sandhill larry
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The dew falls pretty early in the evening {at least here in NW Florida} and it freezes later in the night. So much of it is on trees and bushes and not on the ground below. Wind will keep frost from forming as well. It dries the dew before it has a chance to freeze.
Edit. This is what Wikipedia has to say on the subject.
Frost forms when the temperature of a solid surface in the open cools to below the freezing point of water and for the most clearly crystalline forms of frost in particular, below the frost point in still air.[3] In most temperate countries such temperatures usually are the result of heat loss by radiation at night, so those types of frost sometimes are called radiation frost.
sandhill larry
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Metal will also form frost sooner than the ground. Cars and house roofs will have frost when it isn't cold enough to form on the ground. I guess it loses it heat faster.Frost forms when air near the ground has cooled below its saturation temperature (which causes water vapor in the air to begin condensing) and has also cooled to below freezing (which means frost, rather than dew, will form).
At night, most objects get cold because they are radiating heat energy. The temperature of objects that do not contain much stored heat (like blades of grass) will fall rapidly and, in turn, chill the air immediately in contact with them. When saturation occurs at below-freezing temperatures in the chilled air, frost forms.
However, under a tree the dense canopy of leaves interferes with the radiational-cooling process. The tree leaves actually radiate heat downward, and grass underneath will accumulate little if any frost
WaxertheRadical
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Thanks for clearing that up for me fellas. Nature never ceases to amaze.
sandhill larry
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Those look nice. How cold does it get where you are? I may have to do some sort of greenhouse next winter.
sandhill larry
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I cut most of the dead off the B&S X CP1's. Doesn't look as bad {if you don't think about what they looked like before}.
DONT really know degree wise how cold it gets here. WILL do a degree thing this year will the pics. IM on the eastern side of aus near the ocean. IT gets cold but its warm compared to tassie.i have some pics of plants i grew last yearcin winter they didnt start to flower till spring. IM hoping same thing will happen this season will that strain. YOUR plants look great for being grown outside
sandhill larry
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I looked back to see when the 2 Big & Stinky X CP1's started to flower. I saw the first hairs on 12-30-16, so you could say about the New Year. Or almost 6 weeks in. With the frost killing most of the plant, I'm not betting on smooth smoke.
I had pictures, but couldn't load them. Will try again when I go feed next.
I had pictures, but couldn't load them. Will try again when I go feed next.
sandhill larry
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The two frost damaged Big & Stinky X CP1's. There is a couple of limbs on each plant that looks good. Everything else is pretty well fucked.
I accidentally broke a limb off last week. {a lot of the limbs are rotten at the base} I dried the bud out and smoked it. Really good head, but the taste was hard to take. So getting killed by frost and cold is not good for taste.
I accidentally broke a limb off last week. {a lot of the limbs are rotten at the base} I dried the bud out and smoked it. Really good head, but the taste was hard to take. So getting killed by frost and cold is not good for taste.
sandhill larry
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I dusted the halfway good looking limb on the B&S X CP1 with Powernap X Sinmint Cookies pollen today. Most of the buds are nearly ripe, but I will leave that one limb long enough for the seeds to mature.
sandhill larry
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I cut about half of the B&S X CP1. Last week one limb of bud had died, so I figured it was time. I just took the top half off most of the limbs. I did leave the one I dusted with Powernap X Sinmint Cookies last week.
Before :
After:
On the tray: {I smoked a couple of buds from this 2-3 weeks ago. The frost gave it a real harsh taste, so odds are this will be for baking}
Before :
After:
On the tray: {I smoked a couple of buds from this 2-3 weeks ago. The frost gave it a real harsh taste, so odds are this will be for baking}
sandhill larry
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Not yet. I have got a few from there. We might can work out a trade. Shoot me a PM.