Unclebaldrick
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Refined and sold on the world market. Yes, America will have an advantage as far as transport but it adds very little cost per barrel to transport it to Japan. You don't seem terribly well informed.
Trump signs executive orders to advance Keystone XL, Dakota Access pipelines
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Craig1969SS
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Directly useful without batteries...what good is it if it can't be stored? you really stating that viable high amperage a/c power can be had directly from a panel? If I turn on my 220v air conditioner and had my home yard and driveway covered in panels they still wouldn't have the minerals to even begin keep up. You're stuck with batteries dude and I mean a bunch of em if u are relying on solar...least for now until you figure how to store that energy in a really large flywheel. Edumacate yourself por favor. 1/3 of the workforce is employed at night ...what ever will you tell them
Craig1969SS
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That oil is keeping people employed, people in refining, extraction, shipping, welding, fitting etc. would you rather transport it via trucks? Pipelines are our safest way. That oil is flowing South whether you want it to or not. Don't know what else to tell you other than when you drive home and turn on your CPU, make dinner, wash clothes and flip light switches you are consuming electricity and burning fuel generated by those of us who take it from the ground. It will not always be this way but until your alternative technology catches up you are a solar panel in a rainy day sir ...sol
doublejj
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tesla factory has lights & they are 100% off grid.....easy peasy
visajoe1
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Where does electricity come from? What are the different ways it is generated? What is the carbon footprint of the plants?
Hint: electric cars are not zero emission.
doublejj
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visajoe1
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Neato, one building off grid. Show me how 5000 people do it in one modern community, if it exists. There is no way 5000 (or even 1000) people like you and I can live together off grid. The "grid" is just too entangled into our lives. Unless you live indigenous, you're on the grid, I dont care what you say.
Even Amish have small/limited connections to outside. Thats about as close to off the grid modern living as you can get
doublejj
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see above post^^^
visajoe1
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Cool. Another person that can only answer in links, pics, and videos. Good chat.
Craig1969SS
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Those lights are run by what easy peasy ? Batteries ! They are not using electricity straight from a solar panel as was suggested unless maybe Elon is charging his cellphone. For now you'll be trading dirty oil for even dirtier expensive batteries. Tell me how much is a replacement battery for a tesla? $40,000 baby, four with four zeros. What happens when you push a Li battery...it gets warm then hot. Heat is a batteries kryptonite. You know well some fool is going to die in a messy crash under thousands of pounds of battery. Crashes will turn highways into hazmat sites requiring days to clear instead of hours. Your utopia is coming but she won't be nearly as wholesome as you dream her to be.
visajoe1
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LOL
doublejj
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I have a pot farm in NorCal off grid.....we run a little propane thru the generator on cloudy days. We grow large amounts of weed with almost no carbon footprint. We use pot to buy propane...renewable green energy lol
doublejj
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the video answers all your questions.....solar roofs & elect cars will soon make oil obsolete....get out of the way here it comes
doublejj
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Craig1969SS
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I'm all for propane and natural gas man seriously. They can do anything "oil" can and do it far cleaner. Burns my ass that T Boon Pickins plan for natural gas has been blackballed and ridiculed when it is the next transitional step towards green power.
Craig1969SS
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Dude I agree! But you're like a kid waiting to open presents again on Dec 26th.
Craig1969SS
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Check the replacement price for a battery, not the price of the car
Craig1969SS
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Grown with propane!
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ArcticGranite
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With Trump making clear the Dakota Access Pipeline will be completed in an expedited fashion, and authorizing Keystone XL ... the abject displays of ignorance about pipeline safety are resurging.
So rather than industry-wide statistics, lets look at a real world example ... a major pipeline and route located in one of the harshest and most diverse, and most ecologically important ... environments in the world ... the Trans-Alaska pipeline.
Certainly there are few, if any, other pipelines located in more harsh and challenging places anywhere.
How harsh is the Trans-Alaska's route and environment? Lets take a look:
Air Temperature Range Along Route: MINUS -80°F to +95°F.
Diameter of Pipe: 48 inches.
Elevations, Highest:
• Atigun Pass: 4,739 ft.
• Isabel Pass: 3,420 ft.
• Thompson Pass: 2,812 ft.
Grade, Maximum: 145% (55°) at Thompson Pass.
Length of Line: 800 miles (1,288 kilometers)
Mountain Ranges Crossed, North to South (three):
• Brooks Range,
• Alaska Range,
• Ahugach Range.
Right-of-Way Widths:
• Federal land: 54 ft. (buried pipe); 64 ft.
(elevated pipe).
• State land: 100 ft.
• Private land: 54 ft. to 300 ft.
River and Stream Crossings:
• 34 major,
• nearly 500 others.
EARTHQUAKE, In Nov 2002 the pipeline withstood a magnitude 7.9 Richter Scale earthquake that was centered along the Denali Fault in Interior Alaska, approximately 50 miles west of the pipeline. The quake was among the strongest earthquakes recorded in North America in the last 100 years.
So you ask .... HOW SAFE IS THE TRANS-ALASKA pipeline?
Since it began operation in 1977 - now 39 years - the Trans-Alaska - now Aleyska - pipeline:
• Has transported 17,455,737,760 barrels of crude oil.
• Has had on average 11.5 spills per year
• Each spill averaged 92.3 barrels
• A total average of just 1,064 barrels are spilled annually
Out of 17.46 Billion barrels of crude oil delivered in its 39 years an average of just 1,064 barrels annually have spilled from the Trans-Alaska pipeline ... a without incident delivery rate of 99.999762%
This is for a 48" crude oil pipeline built and operating in one of the most severe (and most ecologically sensitive) environments in the world ...
And those numbers are skewed by a couple high profile incidents of sabotage ....
• The single largest spill was the result of sabotage - an explosive charge set at Steele Creek that released 16,000 bbl ...
• And the 2nd largest was also sabotage ... when a drunk used repeated shots from a high powered rifle to breach a weld (more than 50 other gunshots to the pipeline failed to cause a leak) causing a spill of appx 6,142 barrels ... 4,238 barrels were directly recovered ... w/less than 2 acres impacted - which were fully cleaned up.
Take away these two acts of sabotage and over its 39 years and over the 17.46 billion barrels delivered by the Trans-Alaska pipeline there averaged just 11.47 spills per year with an avg spill of 43.3 barrels and a total average annual spill amount of 496 barrels ... an average 99.9999972% safety rating.
Further ... NO ONE can argue that the Trans-Alaska pipeline is in a far more severe environment than the Dakota Access Pipeline ... the Trans-Alaska Pipeline:
• Is almost entirely built above ground and exposed to the elements
• Crosses three mountain ranges, including the nearly mile high Atigun Pass
• Air Temperature Range Along Route: MINUS -80°F to +95°F.
• 34 major, and nearly 500 others river and stream crossings:
• AND travels directly thru an earthquake fault zone ... withstanding a 7.9 quake along its route in 2002 with no spill.
But we are supposed to believe the Dakota Access pipeline - with nearly 40 year newer technology, fully buried and protected from the elements and sabotage along essentially its entire route, and in an area with basically no earthquake threat ... is somehow going to experience massive risk of leaks ...
(A FB feed post)