meangreengrowinmachine
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Are you using jacks?
SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)
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meangreengrowinmachine
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Hey you posted pics!!!
Wisher2
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no I am using Veg+Bloom by Hydroponic-Research
PDX Joe
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I popped a few seeds and my plan is try the organic route for my indoor SIPs. I think this is what I'll try:
Medium: Sunshine Mix #4 with additional course perlite
Dolomite Lime
Down to Earth Starter Mix 3-3-3 - mixed into the soil around the transplanted root ball
Down to Earth Bio Live 5-4-2 - top dress in trench at top of pot
Down to Earth Rose & Flower - top dress around the beginning of flowering
Worm castings - top dress
Malibu Biodynamic Compost - top dress
Bokashi - top dress for mycelium
May use some azomite or basalt mixed into grow medium?
Recharge - occasional top drench for beneficial bacteria
Plain tap water in reservoir - air stones in res
May add coconut water in reservoir as needed.
So, it will be interesting to see how this goes. Any thoughts?
Medium: Sunshine Mix #4 with additional course perlite
Dolomite Lime
Down to Earth Starter Mix 3-3-3 - mixed into the soil around the transplanted root ball
Down to Earth Bio Live 5-4-2 - top dress in trench at top of pot
Down to Earth Rose & Flower - top dress around the beginning of flowering
Worm castings - top dress
Malibu Biodynamic Compost - top dress
Bokashi - top dress for mycelium
May use some azomite or basalt mixed into grow medium?
Recharge - occasional top drench for beneficial bacteria
Plain tap water in reservoir - air stones in res
May add coconut water in reservoir as needed.
So, it will be interesting to see how this goes. Any thoughts?
Evil-Mobo
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Will be watching as I am loving organics and miss the simplicity of the SIP.......
Jp.the.pope
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Coconut water into the res you say?
PDX Joe
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Well, maybe... not completely sure on it. Supposedly it has some natural growth hormones and calcium. I'm thinking using as a supplement to the dolomite rather than using bottled Cal-Mag in the res. I'll use the shelf stable coconut water powder... mix with water to reconstitute.
Jp.the.pope
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I use the same powder. Only to top feed. I was worried about all the sugars in the res. Keep us posted 
meangreengrowinmachine
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Im going to organic route and seems to be working like gang busters so far! and SIPS are so easy! Fill the res and just let em go! I'm still on my first run with the 14 gallon inntainers (they end up only being about 7 gallons of soil after all is said and done) and still in Veg so we will see if i need to supplement during flowering but hopefully should be good with just water and some air stones in the rez.
meangreengrowinmachine
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my soil recipe should be earlier in this thread if anyone is interested
PDX Joe
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Good point... so the coconut water can get frothy? I suppose any sugars might make a mess in the res. I might rethink that one.I use the same powder. Only to top feed. I was worried about all the sugars in the res. Keep us posted
meangreengrowinmachine
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im very hesitant to add anything but water to my rez tbh.. if i feel the need to add teas i will add them to the top.. but i think many people do add nutes or teas to their rez.. im just hesitant this first go round
budLIFE60
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Hey havent posted in a bit here are my new sip conatianers I'm giving a try.
Ran into a few issues I didn't like with my old sips. I find this way to be much easier to deal with IMO.
Found this idea on the web. What I did was cut my 4inch perferated drain pipe long ways so it fit in my container. Then I capped every end so it looked like this
Next I drilled a hole in the top of one end of the drain pipe for my watering pipe to run into. At the other end I drilled a hole 1 inch from the top of the drain pipe and one through my container for an overflow.
(Don't mind my dogs paw in this shot)
And that's pretty much all the prep work! Then I just filled the containers with some super soil, my plants and covered with about 2 inches thick of mulch. Looks something like this
Plants seem to love it so far!
Ran into a few issues I didn't like with my old sips. I find this way to be much easier to deal with IMO.
Found this idea on the web. What I did was cut my 4inch perferated drain pipe long ways so it fit in my container. Then I capped every end so it looked like this
Next I drilled a hole in the top of one end of the drain pipe for my watering pipe to run into. At the other end I drilled a hole 1 inch from the top of the drain pipe and one through my container for an overflow.
(Don't mind my dogs paw in this shot)
And that's pretty much all the prep work! Then I just filled the containers with some super soil, my plants and covered with about 2 inches thick of mulch. Looks something like this
Plants seem to love it so far!
meangreengrowinmachine
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nice man!
Jp.the.pope
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Did you get the powder from BAS? Also that intainer design works for 45 gal bins
About 10 gal res / 30-35 soil
Jp.the.pope
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Reason I ask is I got mine from BAS. It is sugary but only frothy when I also add agsil16H as an emulsifier / silica source
Jp.the.pope
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Clover cover crop is starting to come in. Will post new photos in a few days. Hopefully have some green clovers for St. Paddys
PDX Joe
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I actually haven't purchased the powder yet. But, I have been looking at the BAS product. It sounds like BAS makes sure their powder doesn't have any funky preservatives. I'm wondering if there might be another place to get it from, but I think a lot of the powders are geared more towards the health food market and might have some extra junk in it that may not be great in gardening. But, I am going off of speculation and based on an interview I heard with Jeremy at BAS and Clackamas Coot.Did you get the powder from BAS? Also that intainer design works for 45 gal bins
About 10 gal res / 30-35 soil
I wonder if the coconut water sugars might buildup in small tubing or will stay dissolved.
Evil-Mobo
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I have been using the BAS coconut and aloe for a while now and am VERY pleased with the results. The foliar sprays with the mix is just heaven to the plants too. However, I would caution in adding this to the res on a SIP, because the instructions cleary state since there's no presatives etc the product does not last before going bad it's meant for immediate use. I have bubbled it in water before feedings with no issues and never clogged my sprayer either.
Their Clover crop seed mix is wonderful too and does the trick to keep the worms happy.
PDX Joe
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Okay, cool. So you mix the aloe and coconut water together as a foliar? I've heard a bit about the aloe. What does it do... is it simply a surfactant/ wetting agent to transfer the coco water to the leaves?