Power Savings from COB switch...REAL Numbers

[Hybridway]

You guys do awesome things!!!! Those look like the phantoms with removable ballasts!!!! I love all the LED and COB pics as well. But i mean I'm paying 100 bucks for 1000 watt of DE and what a LED guy is paying 70 bucks for 750 watts to cover 24-25 square feet? Not talking whats better, i just haven't been excited to use my cobs yet. One day i will!!!!

Thnx man! Fire dem daer Cobs up! Think you'll be pleasantly surprised! Do yourself a side by side. That was the only way I was gonna convince myself. Made a pretty big switch based on trial runs. @sixstring2112 seams to making the switch n liking the results too. He's always showing robust ladies n I'm pretty sure he was all HPS.

 

[Hybridway]

hybrid, your rooms are always top-notch and inspiring

Thanks Bobby! I try to Do the best w/ what I have.
That DE room is more my friends then mine. We're working on it together & it's new.

 

[Jimmyclone42]

I switched from hps to cobs, and will never look back..
Wanna buy a ton of hps equipment?

 

[a mongo frog]

I switched from hps to cobs, and will never look back..
Wanna buy a ton of hps equipment?

Fuck yes. If you have the green power bulbs and any type of fixture that runs them. All day long friend for a decent deal!!!!! I can even throw in 3 250 watt 3590 bars. I guess 3 fixtures total with the green power bulbs would be fair?

 

[since1991]

Yes, I understand that, but that is why you save the money. You do not have to run as much COB lighting to match HPS, which is where the savings is at. Either way you look at it, you are saving. Although, at 1000w in a 4x4, you are pretty much spinning your wheels and wasting energy with COB. The yield of 1000w in 4x4 compared to 600w in 4x4 is small. I have never yielded less than 1.2gpw in a 4x4 with my COBS @ 600w. Very few people can even achieve 1gpw with HPS (flame suit on for all the turds out there who claim 1gpw every grow with HPS when in reality, its uncommon... Stop measuring your plants on the vine!). I know that I can yield a bit better if I added 200w, but I am pretty content with yielding what I do.

You are now getting into space limitations. If you dont have limitations, of course 1000w of cob will blow away 1000w hps and what you are saying is 100% true. I am just using a common 4x4 setup as example.

I like your comment about growers who try and push this gram per watt with traditional hps lamps and always claim iys easy at that when in reality. ...THE REAL WORLD...not many truly hit it and even less surpass it. Thats the truth and ive been growing for decades. You can tell they are third grow pros when they say its easy and they say or show a pic of air cooled hoods. Lol and no co2

 

[HydoDan]

Actually grams per watt is a poor way of judging your grow... I ran a local dispensary grow for years..
bottom line is total cost per gram.. including every penny spent.. I really don't know if we hit a gram per watt.. don't care..

 

[since1991]

Actually grams per watt is a poor way of judging your grow... I ran a local dispensary grow for years..
bottom line is total cost per gram.. including every penny spent.. I really don't know if we hit a gram per watt.. don't care..

Its the old way to judge a grow for sure. Made popular by the books written by jorge cervantes back in the day. With all the new lighting technology out now...the cost per gram makes much more sense. Especailly the bigger operations.

 

[doz]

On the high end, first grow w/ 1000w of LED and all costs associated for startup and first run is about $2500. Thereafter, no more than $550/grow for everything I need including electricity/water.

Yield about 1250g per run so you do the math Either way, well worth it Even @ $2500 first run w/ 1250g, thats only $2/g. Cant beat that price!

 

[Shugglet]

Actually grams per watt is a poor way of judging your grow... I ran a local dispensary grow for years..
bottom line is total cost per gram.. including every penny spent.. I really don't know if we hit a gram per watt.. don't care..

Yeah, but if youre figuring out a total cost per gram, then you pretty much would have to know the gram per watt? No? And thats an ACTUAL gram per watt, as in all power devoted to the grow, not just the light. Figuring out a G/W for a light is easy if you have the basic information.

Saying you "dont care" if you hit a gram per watt is a bit silly too, especially if youre commercial, considering maximizing returns is basically the whole point lol.

Really, I feel gram per watt is a great way to judge a grow, assuming you arent just talking about your lighting fixture.

 

[HydoDan]

Yeah, but if youre figuring out a total cost per gram, then you pretty much would have to know the gram per watt? No? And thats an ACTUAL gram per watt, as in all power devoted to the grow, not just the light. Figuring out a G/W for a light is easy if you have the basic information.

Saying you "dont care" if you hit a gram per watt is a bit silly too, especially if youre commercial, considering maximizing returns is basically the whole point lol.

Really, I feel gram per watt is a great way to judge a grow, assuming you arent just talking about your lighting fixture.

And that is the problem, most people just count the light fixture and really don't know what it pulls..
My 400 watt hps pulls 460 watts for example.. So there is really no standard rules for measuring grams per watt.
If you run it like a business and keep track of all expenditures.. cost per gram.. Back then I didn't care.. Just make $$$
But now that I'm retired and growing in a tent I keep track of my grams per watt.. Just for fun!!

 

[MediheaLed]

Thank you for all your inputs, any and all. Here's a little more info for those interested. Keep it ALL green!
HPS
COB
Please observe the Y-axis. Thank you.