RM3
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nopeAs recall RM3 Said the amber was caused by more CBD ,
nopeAs recall RM3 Said the amber was caused by more CBD ,
Sorry RM3 mix up things, i have read u threads, a long time ago, heck i even just bought some of u seeds. But "normal belief" dark heads is degradeing THC right ? So I kind of mixed that up with your research. and early amber has nothing to do with CBD?.nope
let's look at this from a different angle:That's the thing I see too.. Older strains amber.
newer and uber potent - Don't!
let's look at this from a different angle:
newer, potent strains don't amber as expected.
1. possibly the higher THC% causes this? is there really that big of difference b/t 18% old school strains and 28% new strains? maybe.
2. advances in lighting. perhaps these newer strains are being bred under LED, LEC with a fuller spectrum compared to old school strains being bred under HPS/MH which causes the non ambering effect? maybe.
of the 2 ideas i posted, i was leaning more towards the spectrum being more of the cause. all of these old school strains bred under different lights now have more of a sunlight spectrum and are behaving differently .Interesting theory on the higher thc. I want to agree with it.
But I have to say the colored trichomes and stalks are way more pronounced now that I have a 315 LEC in the flower room. Have been ripening a couple weeks under it. There is way more purple, pink and amber showing while most of the rest if he trichomes are still clear headed.
Most of my strains are old school hybrids or crosses with ECSD and G-13 and Jack Herrer for instance. And I know they were bred under standard HPS bulbs from seed to flower. And some are specked with colored glands.
The newer stuff like Headband only shows clear to cloudy. And it has a more one dimensional blasting kind of high too.
I get it now. I am really stoned because of these new spectrums. Lol.of the 2 ideas i posted, i was leaning more towards the spectrum being more of the cause. all of these old school strains bred under different lights now have more of a sunlight spectrum and are behaving differently .
definitely one of the questions that makes you go "hmmmmm?" for sure!
blame it on the lights! too funny my man. lol.I am really stoned because of these new spectrums.
The lighting spectrum thing has always been on my mind....I find the "emerson effect" as being overblown. I mean, sure it seems to help with overall growth but, that heavy emphasis on the far red ,, seems to have a detrimental effect on the buzz structure....Flat and one sided....of the 2 ideas i posted, i was leaning more towards the spectrum being more of the cause. all of these old school strains bred under different lights now have more of a sunlight spectrum and are behaving differently .
definitely one of the questions that makes you go "hmmmmm?" for sure!
i'm interested in that time frame for the uvb. i've got one of those htg supply pure uv t5's and i've been running mine for 15 minutes per 2 hours but only in the window of the day when the sun's uv is highest i.e. from like 10 am to 2pm when they tell you to stay out of the sun if possible.It's delivering a very nice UVB exposure. That runs for 3 hrs in early (After a cpl hrs HPS on) to mid lighting time - Just like the peak before the "light saturation" point..
The light saturation point begins well before 2 pm on any given full sun day in C3 plants......The plant is actually changing on the cellular peptide level to protect it's self from the increased UV and the other delivered light intensity.i'm interested in that time frame for the uvb. i've got one of those htg supply pure uv t5's and i've been running mine for 15 minutes per 2 hours but only in the window of the day when the sun's uv is highest i.e. from like 10 am to 2pm when they tell you to stay out of the sun if possible.
so you run yours more in the "morning" of the plant? have you tried the "midday" approach?
thanks! gonna try that next go round. makes sense.The light saturation point begins well before 2 pm on any given full sun day in C3 plants......The plant is actually changing on the cellular peptide level to protect it's self from the increased UV and the other delivered light intensity.
I have tried it later. Tried 10min an hr every hr. I'm getting the best results with the lighting I'm using and the 9-12 (Figure of speech as I run at night. Run time is 11 hrs) time used. To be direct. Lights are on for 3 and the MV fires up for 3 hrs. MV shuts off and the lights continue for 5 more..
Because lots of us gave up heat problems and expensive high wattage bulbs for the modern. LED. My previous set up was a switchable dual ballast 400 watt High intensity discharge in veg. High pressure sodium in flower.I wonder how many of you saying no amber on new strains are not running HPS in flower? Like old growers have done for the last 20+ years.
without ruling out environmental factors? which are all over the place......Because lots of us gave up heat problems and expensive high wattage bulbs for the modern. LED. My previous set up was a switchable dual ballast 400 watt High intensity discharge in veg. High pressure sodium in flower.
This isn't the lights fault. My theory, it's the light cycle. Particularly the diminished light schedule. Gas Lantern gave me zero issues. Diminished has brought out the weird. The out of the box thinking plant that stays milky for longer.
Is the amber rush the new gold fever? It deserves study.
I don't see Amber on any strain but CTF.I wonder how many of you saying no amber on new strains are not running HPS in flower? Like old growers have done for the last 20+ years.
That's not it, I've never run an HPS bulb and I get amber on pretty much everything I growI wonder how many of you saying no amber on new strains are not running HPS in flower? Like old growers have done for the last 20+ years.
I wonder how many of you saying no amber on new strains are not running HPS in flower? Like old growers have done for the last 20+ years.
The lighting spectrum thing has always been on my mind....I find the "emerson effect" as being overblown. I mean, sure it seems to help with overall growth but, that heavy emphasis on the far red ,, seems to have a detrimental effect on the buzz structure....Flat and one sided....
I run HPS 1K's in Jupiter 6 hoods with a 400w Merc Vapor below the glass and going out towards the center. This not only gives me the blue spectrum I want. It's delivering a very nice UVB exposure. That runs for 3 hrs in early (After a cpl hrs HPS on) to mid lighting time - Just like the peak before the "light saturation" point..
I and my patients are liking that a lot...but, yeah. I have the same feeling on that point.