The DNC Reports Lowest Fundraising Since 2003

[UncleBuck]

GA-6 is a well to do district, decidedly not full of stereotypical hillbillies.
The point I'm driving at is that running against the dominant party with the same message they're carrying is not a winning strategy.

karen handel and jon ossoff did not have even remotely similar messages. your false beliefs are not facts.

GA-6 is a republican +10 voter registration district. price won it by about 25 points 6 months ago. price was picked because the district was seen as safe no matter what.

and ossoff turned out as many votes in an off-year special election as the last democrat got during a presidential election year. that is fucking unheard of.

you and pada are off the deep end just as far as flaming pie went. you two have been radicalized, it is sad to see.

 

[ttystikk]

It's the south man.. a progressive doesn't stand a chance. Id love to be proved wrong but I don't see it happening

And that's the other reason he lost.

It would have been nice to see how the locals would have responded to a progressive message.

The Democratic Party would not stand for that, however.

 

[ttystikk]

karen handel and jon ossoff did not have even remotely similar messages. your false beliefs are not facts.

GA-6 is a republican +10 voter registration district. price won it by about 25 points 6 months ago. price was picked because the district was seen as safe no matter what.

and ossoff turned out as many votes in an off-year special election as the last democrat got during a presidential election year. that is fucking unheard of.

you and pada are off the deep end just as far as flaming pie went. you two have been radicalized, it is sad to see.

Imagine how a well funded progressive campaign might have done?

 

[Padawanbater2]

It's a great idea for already blue states.. maybe even close red states. But it's not going to happen in states that are flat out red. I have nothing against it. But not everyone sitting out an elections excuse is.. they aren't progressive enough. If they truly cared they'd still vote the lesser of two evils and work from there. Taking a small step is better then sitting on your ass and complaining, knowing that they made no real effort for change.
That's like a homeless person complaining about being homeless while making 0 effort to better their life

Less than half eligible voters voted in GAs 6th. We know running establishment Democrats in red districts doesn't work otherwise Ossoff would have performed better. You may not think a progressive can win, but we have yet to see the DNC back a progressive candidate.

 

[srh88]

, but we have yet to see the DNC back a progressive candidate.

Bernie

 

[ttystikk]

Less than half eligible voters voted in GAs 6th. We know running establishment Democrats in red districts doesn't work otherwise Ossoff would have performed better. You may not think a progressive can win, but we have yet to see the DNC back a progressive candidate.

And I don't think that's by accident.

 

[srh88]

Imagine how a well funded progressive campaign might have done?

From what I read.. for Georgia ossoff was pretty progressive. He campaigned on minimum wage being a living wage.. affordable school and noone getting destroyed by insurance costs or medical debt.

Sounds pretty progressive for Georgia

 

[ttystikk]

From what I read.. for Georgia ossoff was pretty progressive. He campaigned on minimum wage being a living wage.. affordable school and noone getting destroyed by insurance costs or medical debt.

Sounds pretty progressive for Georgia

And he closed the gap by over half. Not bad. If he'd gone full on Progressive, what might have happened? We'd at least have a test case.

 

[srh88]

And he closed the gap by over half. Not bad. If he'd gone full on Progressive, what might have happened? We'd at least have a test case.

I think the best test case would be if they started their own party

 

[ttystikk]

I think the best test case would be if they started their own party

Tea Party style? I'm on board with that! In fact it's already happening.

 

[Padawanbater2]

And I don't think that's by accident.

Of course not. The Democratic establishment would rather a Republican win than an actual progressive. If a progressive wins in a red district, that will be conclusive evidence that Democrats can win those districts with the correct message. The establishment doesn't want single payer enacted, they don't want the minimum wage raised, etc. Neither do Republicans.

 

[ttystikk]

Of course not. The Democratic establishment would rather a Republican win than an actual progressive. If a progressive wins in a red district, that will be conclusive evidence that Democrats can win those districts with the correct message. The establishment doesn't want single payer enacted, they don't want the minimum wage raised, etc. Neither do Republicans.

The establishment in this case = the donor class.

 

[srh88]

Tea Party style? I'm on board with that! In fact it's already happening.

It's more of a.. stop trying to run them as Democrats while bitching about Democrats type thing. I'd vote for a progressive candidate just to piss off trump supporters because I don't disagree with the progressives points.

Just annoying to hear DNC this.. DNC that... All the complaining when all these hidden progressive that appearently don't vote can just run someone as an independent

 

[ttystikk]

It's more of a.. stop trying to run them as Democrats while bitching about Democrats type thing. I'd vote for a progressive candidate just to piss off trump supporters because I don't disagree with the progressives points.

Just annoying to hear DNC this.. DNC that... All the complaining when all these hidden progressive that appearently don't vote can just run someone as an independent

The difference between the Tea Party and any Progressive Movement party is funding; the Tea Partiers platform was much more closely aligned with the desires of America's oligarch class so they got lots of cash, where a Progressive platform is basically diametrically opposed to the interests of the donor class.

 

[srh88]

The difference between the Tea Party and any Progressive Movement party is funding; the Tea Partiers platform was much more closely aligned with the desires of America's oligarch class so they got lots of cash, where a Progressive platform is basically diametrically opposed to the interests of the donor class.

Obviously the funding won't add up though with no corporate sponsors.. but that's on the person running. Just because you accept a donation doesn't mean you're their bitch

 

[Padawanbater2]

It's more of a.. stop trying to run them as Democrats while bitching about Democrats type thing. I'd vote for a progressive candidate just to piss off trump supporters because I don't disagree with the progressives points.

Just annoying to hear DNC this.. DNC that... All the complaining when all these hidden progressive that appearently don't vote can just run someone as an independent

Except independent candidates don't win majorities because of the inherent flaws within the two party political system. If we had a parliamentary system of government, you might be right, but since we don't, you're not.

 

[ttystikk]

Obviously the funding won't add up though with no corporate sponsors.. but that's on the person running. Just because you accept a donation doesn't mean you're their bitch

It's where those donations come from that matters.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Just because you accept a donation doesn't mean you're their bitch

Why would an insurance company that opposes single payer healthcare fund a Democrats campaign who says he supports it? Why would said Democratic candidate who says they support single payer healthcare accept a political contribution from an insurance company that opposes it?

 

[Justin-case]

Why would an insurance company that opposes single payer healthcare fund a Democrats campaign who says he supports it? Why would said Democratic candidate who says they support single payer healthcare accept a political contribution from an insurance company that opposes it?

Tax deduction

 

[srh88]

Why would said Democratic candidate who says they support single payer healthcare accept a political contribution from an insurance company that opposes it?

Money's money.. they are campaigning, every penny goes to use.

Tax deduction

Ding ding ding