The flush "myth"

whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Mission City Buds said:
I disagree. I dry and sweat and cure my herb just fine. The black hard ash is unused fert. The unused chems will not burn. If you don't think there is a difference I urge u to try your own comparasion. Flush half of your crop and don't flush the other half. Dry, sweat and cure the same way. I guarantee u will see and taste the difference.
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That's not how it works. You don't have literal unused chems in weed.

Again. Explain how flushing removes immobile nutrients. How are mobile ones removed. They move to new growth.
 
jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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Mission City Buds said:
I disagree. I dry and sweat and cure my herb just fine. The black hard ash is unused fert. The unused chems will not burn. If you don't think there is a difference I urge u to try your own comparasion. Flush half of your crop and don't flush the other half. Dry, sweat and cure the same way. I guarantee u will see and taste the difference.
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You lost. What was the guarantee? I tried this almost 40 years ago, didn't work then, won't work now. When I first started growing no one told me to flush, the smoke was fine without it, then I started reading High Times and they said to flush. Tried it a few times and couldn't tell the difference (except for the plants yellowing) I have tried it on several friends who said they can't smoke "chemicals" . Never saw anyone who could tell the difference. Now, what was I gonna learn?
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Mission City Buds said:
I've always found unflushed weed has a harsh taste and a black ash when smoked. I've had weed so full of nutes still that it wouldn't even stay lot to smoke. I'm a firm believer in flushing. I've always done it and don't think I'll ever risk not doing it lol.
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Then you had too many nutes in your plant before the flush, rookie mistake :-)
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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^^^^^^ I over feed my plants they will not burn and taste like shit. If I underfeed they will die a premature death but if I feed properly they will taste great (which I do BTW). If I overfeed there will be too much nutrients in the plant but flushing will not remove them and are still there, just in a different place, if I feed properly then there are less nutes in the plant so they burn and taste better ...... Oh the irony of it all lol.
 
ISK

ISK

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Chunky Stool said:
I spent some time @ GrassShitty back when RIU was down. It was interesting.
Mods are *way* more aggressive when it comes to deleting posts & banning people. And the grow info was mediocre at best.
I bet RIU has more sock puppets... :dunce::cuss::dunce:
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Yeah, there was several of us that joined GrassCity while RIU was down...I was Dr. Evil
I was not impressed with their content and so many young kids with limited skills that just were not open to alternative concepts.
I occasionally go back to see if anything has improved...I'm still waiting

I agree about the sock-puppets, but that not necessarily a bad thing...adds a bit of humour
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Budley Doright said:
^^^^^^ I over feed my plants they will not burn and taste like shit. If I underfeed they will die a premature death but if I feed properly they will taste great (which I do BTW). If I overfeed there will be too much nutrients in the plant but flushing will not remove them and are still there, just in a different place, if I feed properly then there are less nutes in the plant so they burn and taste better ...... Oh the irony of it all lol.
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No overfeeding is good for the taste of bud, if so it would be much easier to do and get a quality smoke.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Kingrow1 said:
No overfeeding is good for the taste of bud, if so it would be much easier to do and get a quality smoke.
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Yes I know but there is so much contradiction in what is being said that no wonder some are confused re flushing. I don't and the only reason I don't is it's not changed anything, taste, yield, bag appeal, all the same IMO. But perhaps there is some benefit if over feeding, I'll leave that open for discussion lol. I am going to try to push a few plants when I plug in this fall just for snickers to see what happens, never pushed one to the max and interested. Perhaps then I'll try a flush versus non. It'll all be hydro so easy to monitor things :).
 
shorelineOG

shorelineOG

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I grow in hydro and always flush my plants.
I sell indoor and outdoor and the outdoor on the same strain will be darker color because you can't flush a plant in nutrient rich soil like you can in hydro.
If you want the best big dense buds with large trichomes then grow in hydro, use chemical nutes, then flush/fade for a week.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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shorelineOG said:
I grow in hydro and always flush my plants.
I sell indoor and outdoor and the outdoor on the same strain will be darker color because you can't flush a plant in nutrient rich soil like you can in hydro.
If you want the best big dense buds with large trichomes then grow in hydro, use chemical nutes, then flush/fade for a week.
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I did the for sure in hydro. when I didnt follow directions on the bottle and chose to feed to the end my smoke was not good when dry as the others. when I hydro I guess I considered the flush as the time when my peak ppm's are declining per instructions to the end.
I also noticed that even flushing agents had weak nutrients in them....
thinking the debates are always related to the relationship between proper feeding and flushing and the definition of each and soil vs hydro.

peace
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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ISK said:
Yeah, there was several of us that joined GrassCity while RIU was down...
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Traitorous dogs, ye shall feel the cold hard steel of the end of my blade as it runs you through
Budley Doright said:
Yes I know but there is so much contradiction in what is being said that no wonder some are confused re flushing. I don't and the only reason I don't is it's not changed anything, taste, yield, bag appeal, all the same IMO. But perhaps there is some benefit if over feeding, I'll leave that open for discussion lol. I am going to try to push a few plants when I plug in this fall just for snickers to see what happens, never pushed one to the max and interested. Perhaps then I'll try a flush versus non. It'll all be hydro so easy to monitor things :).
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Chlorophyll is energy, energy is growth.

This needs to happen right up until the last day.

You see a lot who flush already have yellow or fallen leaves/senescence (see we do use that word Mr Science Guy...!) long before they get to the flush.

I like to use the rhyme;
"Purple or yellow means your shits crap, lush and green means....." something somthing somthing, havent made up the rest of the words, get back to you soon :-)
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Kingrow1 said:
Yep but add in a greenhouse and you can google plenty of plants close to the last two weeks that are pretty much all green.

Outdoors is an imperfect environment, survival of the fittest and all.....
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Yes a greenhouse would be nice but rather noticeable in an illegal environment :(. I've done really well outdoors in my 40 years but yup enjoy the lab as well lol.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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ISK said:
I had one indoor sunshine plant make it to the end with no yellow leaves....but I'll admit that's not the norm...I just got lucky

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I have yet to not see a plant fade up here before finishing but the smaller secondary and sugar leaves do stay green. The effect of shorter colder days and really cool nights, I believe, stop or force the plant to stop producing chlorophyll in the bigger sun leaves, some fade and others turn different colours like red and purple. I have two right now that are fading out and if I up the nutrients it won't stop but will burn the still green parts. They have outgrown their bags so I'm watering every two days now :(.
 
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