Flushing

[KryptoBud]

Thanks for elaborating on that one. You shouldn't put any nutrients in your weed then either cause they are bitter and sour and nasty (trust me man I tasted them), and will make your weed taste just like them, all gross and nasty. Lol. Just use skittles dissolved into some plain water with chicken and cheeseburgers in it as well as some mt.dew. This is sure to make it taste better before harvest.

Will skittles give me white ash or shall I taste the rainbow?

 

[Ripped Farmer]

Glad to see the general consensus on flushing around here has finally changed. Only took a decade or so...

Flushing is to clean out toxic soil from over fertilizing, not because harvest is coming.

 

[KryptoBud]

You might want to stay away from fresh vegetables then.

It's the same logic as flushing the "chemical taste" from your buds or putting x amount of water through soil makes your ash white.

 

[907cannabis]

It's the same logic as flushing the "chemical taste" from your buds or putting x amount of water through soil makes your ash white.

Your logistics are actually backwards, adding something to get a desired flavor is different than trying to lower the number of built up nutes by simply giving the plant water and not food.

I would have to say why don't you overfeed a plant until the leaves start burning near harvest, make sure there's lots of excess nutes and then cut down and do your best to cure/dry the buds to achieve a good taste and burn.

Would you actually harvest your plants if they were nute burnt assuming the excess nutrients won't effect taste? Or would you flush?

 

[907cannabis]

Glad to see the general consensus on flushing around here has finally changed. Only took a decade or so.

Flushing is to clean out toxic soil from over fertilizing, not because harvest is coming.

So can you tell me when is the most likely time excess nutrients have built up in your medium??? Would it be close to the end of the grow maybe? Like an accumulation thing?

I'm asking this cause of what u said, if it's not "because harvest is coming" but because you want to essentially "flush" only when you think you've over done it, why wouldn't you flush near the end when the chances of excess nutrients being high are higher than ever during your grow.

It seems like it would benefit taste if the buds aren't burnt don't you think?

It may not be the holy grail of marijuana growers technique but I sure think it's an option that doesn't need to be completely condemned from the finishing process.

 

[Daveindiego]

You might want to stay away from fresh vegetables then.

Already ahead of you, pal.

McDonald’s ain’t done me wrong. Yet.

 

[Fractured but whole]

So can you tell me when is the most likely time excess nutrients have built up in your medium??? Would it be close to the end of the grow maybe? Like an accumulation thing?

I'm asking this cause of what u said, if it's not "because harvest is coming" but because you want to essentially "flush" only when you think you've over done it, why wouldn't you flush near the end when the chances of excess nutrients being high are higher than ever during your grow.

It seems like it would benefit taste if the buds aren't burnt don't you think?

It may not be the holy grail of marijuana growers technique but I sure think it's an option that doesn't need to be completely condemned from the finishing process.

wonder why the buds don't yellow when "flushing"? I'm thinking that plants send their available nutes to the buds as a last resort to stay alive. So flushing would be counter active,IMHO

 

[Kingrow1]

Would you actually harvest your plants if they were nute burnt assuming the excess nutrients won't effect taste? Or would you flush?

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*>Reason Why; Redundant fucking question, you wont get to harvest if you burn the crap out of your plats

 

[Buba Blend]

Already ahead of you, pal.

McDonald’s ain’t done me wrong. Yet.

I'd be more afraid of the shit they are feeding those cows.

 

[907cannabis]

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*>Reason Why; Redundant fucking question, you wont get to harvest if you burn the crap out of your plats

I don't understand what your saying ....it's confusing me, I may just be dumb but it seems like flushing would be a viable option at that point.

Why not harvest? if you accidentally nuked a plant toward the end of budding what would you do? Not harvest it or try to save it? Sounds like you think you can only burn a plant in veg or something? Or that nuking it ruins the smoke so you just throw it away? Cause if it's that, then point proven, nutrient filled plants will taste like shit, hence you throwing out your crop. If it's not that why? Why can't you crop out a burnt plant? What's it going to do to the smoke? And why?

 

[Kingrow1]

I don't understand what your saying ....it's confusing me, I may just be dumb but it seems like flushing would be a viable option at that point.

Why not harvest? if you accidentally nuked a plant toward the end of budding what would you do? Not harvest it or try to save it? Sounds like you think you can only burn a plant in veg or something? Or that nuking it ruins the smoke so you just throw it away? Cause if it's that, then point proven, nutrient filled plants will taste like shit, hence you throwing out your crop. If it's not that why? Why can't you crop out a burnt plant? What's it going to do to the smoke? And why?

I do not over fertilize ergo i do not have to flush.

It has been well concluded that a flush will do nothing for the taste and shit bag appeal that the over fertilization caused.

Your logic goes against that of the forum, i wonder why.......

 

[907cannabis]

I do not over fertilize ergo i do not have to flush.

It has been well concluded that a flush will do nothing for the taste and shit bag appeal that the over fertilization caused.

Your logic goes against that of the forum, i wonder why.......

It has been well concluded? Can you show some proof? You seem to be confident that there's no other way. Forum? Are you the forum?

Also if you never overfeed then how would you conclude anything haha, you wouldn't know if it's possible if you've never burnt a plant.

Sounds like your just going by "what you've heard" and not your experience.

 

[KryptoBud]

Your logistics are actually backwards, adding something to get a desired flavor is different than trying to lower the number of built up nutes by simply giving the plant water and not food.

I would have to say why don't you overfeed a plant until the leaves start burning near harvest, make sure there's lots of excess nutes and then cut down and do your best to cure/dry the buds to achieve a good taste and burn.

Would you actually harvest your plants if they were nute burnt assuming the excess nutrients won't effect taste? Or would you flush?

Why don't I overfeed my plants before harvest to make sure theres excess nutes? What a stupid fuckin suggestion. I'd much rather soak them with eagle 20 before smoking it tastes better. Any other recommendation's or suggestions?
Should I smash my thumb with a hammer while framing? Possibly wear no shield when welding because I hear that flash burn in your eyes is a hoot.
Maybe you should learn to feed, dry and cure and you wouldn't have to wash your dirt.

When you have nute burn and you wash the nutes out do the leaves repair themselves? How can you tell you've done enough flushing? How do these used up nutes leave (no pun) the plant?

Why do you suppose dead leaves that fall from trees in autumn are used in compost piles?

Do a quick search on what those white ashes actually are and how they can be used in the garden.

 

[907cannabis]

I was being sarcastic... Sorry man lol

No leaves don't repair themselves, but they are usually the first thing to
burn before the buds and act as a kind of sheild to that type of problem. So when you see leaves burning you "flush" your medium not your plant to keep nutrient uptake down. You can tell when you've flushed enough because the leaves will start to yellow on the bottom because of low nitrogen. While this causes the plant to pull nutrients from wherever possible to keep buds alive it still loweres total nitrogen concentrations everywhere I'm pretty sure. Where do they go? Do you think plants just stop using nutrients all of the sudden? I would think they get used to keep the plant alive.

Again I think the term flushing is misused, it doesn't actually flush the plant and we all know that. It keeps uptake low and over time the nute levels fall, the plant has already created the terpenes and cannabinoids, they aren't going anywhere and if nutes get low it shouldn't affect taste, but if they are high (no pun) it seems to.

Why don't I overfeed my plants before harvest to make sure theres excess nutes? What a stupid fuckin suggestion. I'd much rather soak them with eagle 20 before smoking it tastes better. Any other recommendation's or suggestions?
Should I smash my thumb with a hammer while framing? Possibly wear no shield when welding because I hear that flash burn in your eyes is a hoot.
Maybe you should learn to feed, dry and cure and you wouldn't have to wash your dirt.

When you have nute burn and you wash the nutes out do the leaves repair themselves? How can you tell you've done enough flushing? How do these used up nutes leave (no pun) the plant?

Why do you suppose dead leaves that fall from trees in autumn are used in compost piles?

Do a quick search on what those white ashes actually are and how they can be used in the garden.

 

[907cannabis]

I think we should get some of that nasty black ash and some white ash too and send it in and see what's inside it. Could be a surprise! Haha

 

[Ripped Farmer]

So can you tell me when is the most likely time excess nutrients have built up in your medium??? Would it be close to the end of the grow maybe? Like an accumulation thing?

I'm asking this cause of what u said, if it's not "because harvest is coming" but because you want to essentially "flush" only when you think you've over done it, why wouldn't you flush near the end when the chances of excess nutrients being high are higher than ever during your grow.

It seems like it would benefit taste if the buds aren't burnt don't you think?

It may not be the holy grail of marijuana growers technique but I sure think it's an option that doesn't need to be completely condemned from the finishing process.

The most likely time is when they have nute burn.

Thought it was pretty obvious so i didnt say it. If they are over fertilized at the end of each grow and you have to flush then something is a miss.

Do farmers flush those great big fields to clear out their mistakes before harvest? Answer is no.

 

[907cannabis]

Dead leaves are used In compost because it's compost lol, there are worms and fungus to eat them and turn them back into viable usable nutrients.

 

[907cannabis]

I would say farmers don't grow 10 types of one species in a crop either. Nature doesn't intervene with an indoor grow, farming has mass more variables, plants have been genetically modified to be more resistant to excess pesticides and chemicals, it rains whenever it wants outside, there's all sorts of reasons that isn't a good example.

Yea if they are over fertilized somethings a miss.....good one captain obvious lol. Nutrients build up in the soil over time, that means more time= more buildup. So toward the end chances are higher.

If you are over fertilizing at any time of a grow and you have to flush.... Something could be a miss or you could just be growing cannabis. Shit happens lol.

If you've never burned a plant great job!! You're the best grower ever and deserve a Medal of Honor for your efforts sir!

The most likely time is when they have nute burn.

Thought it was pretty obvious so i didnt say it. If they are over fertilized at the end of each grow and you have to flush then something is a miss.

Do farmers flush those great big fields to clear out their mistakes before harvest? Answer is no.

 

[Kingrow1]

It has been well concluded? Can you show some proof?

Basic salt chemistry kind of flaws water removing various salt deposits but i feel like were starting at a basic level and hence the only way flushing is viewed.

The rest of us who have been here for years have realized that if you find your plants upper tolerances for each stage and never exceed them then all you will ever create is normal vegetation, any thing less is deficiency and thats not what were trying to create.

See how you new growers get some weird idea that by creating toxicity and deficiency you are some how going to yeild primo, the rest of us are yeilding primo bud by avoiding this condition and at all stages roots uptake and leaves assimilate nutrients for growth so we provide.

 

[907cannabis]

I never said any yeilds would be different, I was simply saying I think it can help taste in certain situations, and can save plants that have been burnt.

I may have not been here long, but I've been growing awhile now. Im here to learn really, I just like to question shit.

I truly believe there's something inside bud that can make it burn black and crappy, maybe even not a nutrient, and I think whatever it is its levels can be lowered a little by a good flush.

On a side note I think when people bring anything "nature" into indoor cultivation arguments it becomes invalid. Nature is extremely harsh and unforgiving. Using it as a "control" for comparison is completely useless when comparing to artificial grows. We
Took it out of nature already, why try and replicate conditions now.

Basic salt chemistry kind of flaws water removing various salt deposits but i feel like were starting at a basic level and hence the only way flushing is viewed.

The rest of us who have been here for years have realized that if you find your plants upper tolerances for each stage and never exceed them then all you will ever create is normal vegetation, any thing less is deficiency and thats not what were trying to create.

See how you new growers get some weird idea that by creating toxicity and deficiency you are some how going to yeild primo, the rest of us are yeilding primo bud by avoiding this condition and at all stages roots uptake and leaves assimilate nutrients for growth so we provide.