Millionaire Donor Threatens Democratic Party: “If They Go Far Left, I’m Out”

[ginjawarrior]

Try the bibliography, bro;

Resources & Footnotes
1Pew Research Center, “Most Americans Say Government Doesn’t Do Enough to Help Middle Class: GOP seen as favoring the rich over middle class, poor; mixed views on which class the Democratic Party favors,” Feb. 4, 2016, available at http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/02/04/most-americans-say-government-doesnt-do-enough-to-help-middle-class/.

wow this is like talking to a frigging toddler

the only information in that article from pew is

A Pew Research poll found 62 percent of Americans believe the Republicans favor the rich.1

https://capitalresearch.org/article/party-one-percent/#sup-1
thats it from the entire atricle

does that make everything in the article unimpeachable????

does that thin veneer of a single fact from pew make every word after true??

 

[Grandpapy]

maybe billionaires are not as powerful as you beleive and there are other factors like say the religous right at play here....

Ah, part of the breakdown. I don't believe billionaires at fault, after all they do what comes natural.

Corporations on the other hand have no political adherence other than profit.
It is benefiting Communism. It's what Corporations gravitate too. China knows it.

 

[abandonconflict]

I'd rather work to replace him, since he couldn't be bothered to cosponsor Senator Sander's healthcare bill.

You mean that symbolic garbage that wasn't economically viable and would have created thousands of Martin Shkrelli facsimiles? You'd only support someone who cosponsored that mess?

You're dumb.

 

[ginjawarrior]

Ah, part of the breakdown. I don't believe billionaires at fault, after all they do what comes natural.

Corporations on the other hand have no political adherence other than profit.
It is benefiting Communism. It's what Corporations gravitate too. China knows it.

huh?

 

[abandonconflict]

insanity of doing the same thing and expecting different results

You'll probably get a date if you hit up a gym more often and tighten up your shot grouping in regards to hygiene. Pick up some nice shoes and learn to dance. Take that shit about hot tubs out of your online dating profile, it's so fucking creepy, I don't think even Schuylaar would be interested.

 

[abandonconflict]

Hmm we can build Islands in the Pacific where no one lives, but unable to turn on the lights in Porto Rico.

*Puerto Rico

 

[londonfog]

You'll probably get a date if you hit up a gym more often and tighten up your shot grouping in regards to hygiene. Pick up some nice shoes and learn to dance. Take that shit about hot tubs out of your online dating profile, it's so fucking creepy, I don't think even Schuylaar would be interested.

I totally agree with everything except the @schuylaar part. desperate times this be.
but @ttystikk should do something to not project that smelly lazy look that he now shares online. The part about wanting to wear the pants in the relationship needs to go...real men have no need to even say it.

 

[Grandpapy]

huh?

Yep, hey did you hear low income school districts will limit teachers personal funding of classroom supplies at $250 with the new tax plan?

Education, it's just too expensive.

A side note, imagine the chaos/profits if American religion was allowed in china. hehe

 

[dagwood45431]

Why don't you explain all the Bernie epithets you throw around?

Because that would be changing the subject.

Update: @ttystikk demonstrates his "Look! Squirrel!" technique here quite clearly. He'll never get back around to answering the original question. He's like this guy:

 

[SneekyNinja]

Yep, hey did you hear low income school districts will limit teachers personal funding of classroom supplies at $250 with the new tax plan?

Education, it's just too expensive.

A side note, imagine the chaos/profits if American religion was allowed in china. hehe

Why can everywhere else do it so much cheaper and much higher quality?

 

[UncleBuck]

No, the times you've bragged about golf at a multi-million dollar country club.

i once played 3 rounds at one of the most exclusive private clubs in scottsdale az for $10.

it was the us junior am qualifier. i missed out by 2 shots after 3-putting a dozen times that week.

 

[dagwood45431]

Yep, hey did you hear low income school districts will limit teachers personal funding of classroom supplies at $250 with the new tax plan?

Education, it's just too expensive.

A side note, imagine the chaos/profits if American religion was allowed in china. hehe

We suck.

 

[Padawanbater2]

time stamp would have done but thank you

unfortunatley you are putting words into his mouth that he didnt say in the interview

he doesnt mention economic policies

he is just talking about demonising people for being billionaires

i think it is a perfectly resonable stance from him

I quoted the interview verbatim. How did I "put words into his mouth"?

 

[ginjawarrior]

I quoted the interview verbatim. How did I "put words into his mouth"?

you quoted the interview then continued to put your own interpretation on it...

1:15

Ruhle - "When Democrats continue to say "Down with the billionaires, we can't stand the rich!" A lot of people want to be rich. So is it the right message that the Democrats are going with?"
Cloobeck - "It's so "F-ing wrong"
Ruhle - "Whoa!"
Cloobeck - "I've talked to [Chuck] Schumer, I've talked to [Ron] Wyden, I've talked to [Nancy] Pelosi, and I said "If you use the term "Billionaires again, I'm done."
Ruhle - "Why?"
Cloobeck - "Because.. it's aspirational. (Huh?) I didn't start with anything. Just, penalize everyone that's done well? We all wanna do well. And we should be the party of "doing well". We should be a party of business and leadership. And it is very, very disturbing when I hear the "millionaire" or "billionaire" word, and I've told them to "STOP IT!", "KNOCK IT OFF!". Because, everyone wants to do really well and this is the world of the, uhh, aspirations.. " (What?)
Ruhle - "Then are you worried that the Democratic party is going too far to the left?"
Cloobeck - "So much so it drives me nuts! So much so, it would make me quit the party! And, I've made it very clear, I'll cut your money off! And others will do the same. We've had enough! We need a new brand!"

This is the part where you are putting words into his mouth

Cloobeck is very clear in what he is saying during this interview; He's saying that if the Democrats (the progressive wing) doesn't shut the fuck up about criticizing the economic policies that screw over the poor and middle class that favor the rich - like him - he, and others in the donor class will stop funding them.

those words you typed were not said by him or alluded to

put words in someone’s mouth
to say that someone means one thing when the person really meant something else:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/put-words-in-someone-s-mouth

 

[Fogdog]

I quoted the interview verbatim. How did I "put words into his mouth"?

I read your post. Ginja is right. Nowhere in the interview does economic policy come up. You said economic policy. You put words in his figurative mouth. When you did that you skewed the meaning of what was said in the interview. This is a good example of why you simply can't correctly assess the current political situation and nobody should listen to you.

Ginja's interpretation of the interview is accurate. Except billionaires do have more influence than you or I or any person of normal means. This doesn't mean we have to do their bidding but it does mean we should listen when they tell us something is pissing them off. It certainly means we should get what they are saying right.

 

[ttystikk]

I quoted the interview verbatim. How did I "put words into his mouth"?

They just want to kneel n suck the corporate cock, hoping the exercise will leave enough on their chin to survive on.

It is hard to get a man to understand something when his livelihood depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair.

 

[SneekyNinja]

They just want to kneel n suck the corporate cock, hoping the exercise will leave enough on their chin to survive on.

It is hard to get a man to understand something when his livelihood depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair.

You're fake news, please don't spam our site with your bullshit.

Literally what he said was disproven and you come along like the retard you are, ignore the already completed discord and declare victory.

Honestly now, how are you so fucking delusional? Do you genuinely smoke meth or something harder than pot?

 

[ttystikk]

You're fake news, please don't spam our site with your bullshit.

Literally what he said was disproven and you come along like the retard you are, ignore the already completed discord and declare victory.

Honestly now, how are you so fucking delusional? Do you genuinely smoke meth or something harder than pot?

Awww you mad, slander boy?

Can't rebut the topic, so gotta shitpost!

 

[schuylaar]

Sure, you can mark some losses up to the reasons you cited, but more than 1,000 in 8 years is pretty extraordinary. The Democratic establishment promotes corporate candidates that support business interests because that's where the funds that get them (re)elected come from. Corporate interests are diametrically opposed to the working-class and poor. Sure, you can fundraise a grip of money, but if the people you target to get you elected don't believe you're representing their interests, voter turnout and enthusiasm will be low, like we saw in 2016.

The formula is simple; execution not so much.

We need to somehow stop the requirement of cash 'to win'..because it's NOT a requirement..it's who can outspend who.

We MUST stop this practice.

When that is taken off the table the NEED for cash will be too.

This is HOW we problem solve!

The real question is how do we take away the NEED?

 

[Fogdog]

The formula is simple; execution not so much.

We need to somehow stop the requirement of cash 'to win'..because it's NOT a requirement..it's who can outspend who.

We MUST stop this practice.

When that is taken off the table the NEED for cash will be too.

This is HOW we problem solve!

The real question is how do we take away the NEED?

Simple