Huge plant needs fed every watering?
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907cannabis
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Ok... I'm not quite sure what your trying to say. Thanks tho for the compliment.
CikaBika
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can you explain what you mean? english isnt my native so..I'm using AN nutes..
Cold$moke
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There are lots of threads on this subject.
The basics of it are. With bottled nutrients
You pay for water and the pretty bottle.
If you want the same thing as advanced nutrients but cheaper..... if i remember right .
check out green leaf nutrients
MEGA CROP.
Basically a dry version of advanced nutrients.
And way cheaper
Cx2H
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And epsoma tomatotone, gardentone, planttone is even cheaper dry organics. I got a 36lb bag for 18$. Will last me year's if I don't use it for everything indoor and outdoor.There are lots of threads on this subject.
The basics of it are. With bottled nutrients
You pay for water and the pretty bottle.
If you want the same thing as advanced nutrients but cheaper..... if i remember right .
check out green leaf nutrients
MEGA CROP.
Basically a dry version of advanced nutrients.
And way cheaper
Winter is the best time to buy discounted fertilizer. #ICYMI
CikaBika
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I dont wanna flame,but funny thing yhis is first tine I hear this..so biobizz,hesi,plagroon,bionova,gh,remonutes,canna nutes all of that is snake oil.. and they didnt went broke?? How strange..There are lots of threads on this subject.
The basics of it are. With bottled nutrients
You pay for water and the pretty bottle.
If you want the same thing as advanced nutrients but cheaper..... if i remember right .
check out green leaf nutrients
MEGA CROP.
Basically a dry version of advanced nutrients.
And way cheaper
And opposit what you say I read that powder nutes arent good,coz thru time good this drop to bottom of bag,and you cant shske it like liqued nutes to be "one" again.. Sorry for craply english.. but this is first time someone is bashing liq. nutes
Cold$moke
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You wanted my answer
I gave it.
No bottled nutes will help anyone grow better .
You can flame if you like to
As to shaking nutes to make it one again....
Really? youd rather shake old shit then mix new fresh?
Yea sure you could get some inconsistencies in mix but not a big deal (how consistent are the nutrients you buy?.
Premix nutrients have been on the shelve for a long time..... powders shelf life starts when YOU mix it
Ive used advanced nutrients
General hydo
Botanicare
Canna
RAW by npk(powder)
These where all great nutrients. ..
But way over priced for what you get..
And they didnt went broke because people are too lazy to want to learn about nutrients.
(Edit to add to be fair im too lazy to mix my own from individual elements.
This is why im going to give greenleaf nutrients and hydro gardens chem gro a shot)
And or dont have the confidence to mix their own. Which is dum because its the same as liquid ......you measure .... you add and boom you got nutes
Come tell me what the major food crop producing famrs are using in there hydopnics .
Guarantee its not any of the ones you or i mentioned.
Weed nutrients in my mind are companies
That are profting off of peeple like sheeple.
Touting that their nute will increasea your crops value .....
Um sorry but i had Great results using all the nutrients listed.
So isnt Advanced Nutrients supposed to be better than gh? You know, cause it cost more it has to be better right?
Meh.
They all did what they where supposed to
Only difference i noticed was flavor change
Botanicare tasted better imo
But to be fair didnt use the canna enough to judge it as i still have almost brand new bottles of coco a and b (quit using coco)
But it wasnt enough of a difference .
And after climbing the nutrient ladder like we all usually do .
After using AN for the last few years
Im done with hydro store bull shit.
I want what major food producers are using
Cause i can bet its not AN
Flame on
Lordhooha
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Cold is right most liquids are over priced water. It’s just really fancy looking wallet draining water. The only liquid nutrients I have are freebies I get from the grow stores around me. The reasons why most haven’t gone out of business are due to the fact there are plenty of folks out there that don’t know there are better cheaper options out there. The market hype is there everywhere you look. Most stores are going to push the expensive multi part nutrients because they make money.
Roger A. Shrubber
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they didn't go broke because people are both unintelligent and lazy. they don't want to have to do any research to find what is best, they'd rather rely on flashy ads to tell them whats best. they don't want to have to spend 3 minutes weighing and mixing dry salts, when they can spend 2 minutes mixing nutes that are already 90% water....as for dry salts settling....how would that happen? they mix it all up in huge batches, blend it very well, then let it dry and its pretty much homogeneous, so how does a powder thats all the same thing settle?
i'm not saying that bottled nutes are snake oil, but i am saying that they're at least 90% water...why pay for water when you can buy the exact same thing and mix it yourself as needed, for pennies on the dollar?
and i will call it snake oil when they have more than three bottles for the system......you need a veg mix, a flower mix, and a micro nutrient mix....thats it, many people who grow crazy good bud do it exactly that way...a lot of people use Jack's citrus dry salts all the way through, from the first feeding to the last, just adding a little epsom salts and calcium here and there
Roger A. Shrubber
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ANC
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Take em home heat them up, and use as per normal after they cooled down. The shit just falls out of solution.
907cannabis
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Lol how did my thread turn into a nutrient discussion? Was it that I had mentioned advanced nutrients?
Like I said before I got all mine for free so I'll be using it for the next crop, after that since this is now a nutrient discussion, what is the cheapest/best dry nutrient setup?
I'd like to switch eventually to something cheaper and easy to store. I only use bottled shit cause that's what we have here (fox farm) I'll have to order whatever I choose in the end.
If I go with dry nutes and make my own, what can I do to supplement the taste additives, I might keep using bud candy, I've had it side by side against some Brer Rabbit molasses and guano and I thought the plants drinking the candy were much tastier. Lots of other things were different though. I just assumed maybe it was the bud candy.
I know an doesn't just bottle crap, they are overpriced but they have put a ton of work into their products, I wouldn't call them snake oils, rhino skin really does stiffen stocks, I haven't looked for a cheaper alt. though, the sensizyme is from what I understand a "micro booster" with beneficial fungus. Seems to help root growth and development.
Some of the others, like the flushing bs (that I used to fall for) and the other 5 or so bottles seem to be useless, I'll probably use it all untill it's not effective to refill my base nutes. After that, what's my best dry option?
Like I said before I got all mine for free so I'll be using it for the next crop, after that since this is now a nutrient discussion, what is the cheapest/best dry nutrient setup?
I'd like to switch eventually to something cheaper and easy to store. I only use bottled shit cause that's what we have here (fox farm) I'll have to order whatever I choose in the end.
If I go with dry nutes and make my own, what can I do to supplement the taste additives, I might keep using bud candy, I've had it side by side against some Brer Rabbit molasses and guano and I thought the plants drinking the candy were much tastier. Lots of other things were different though. I just assumed maybe it was the bud candy.
I know an doesn't just bottle crap, they are overpriced but they have put a ton of work into their products, I wouldn't call them snake oils, rhino skin really does stiffen stocks, I haven't looked for a cheaper alt. though, the sensizyme is from what I understand a "micro booster" with beneficial fungus. Seems to help root growth and development.
Some of the others, like the flushing bs (that I used to fall for) and the other 5 or so bottles seem to be useless, I'll probably use it all untill it's not effective to refill my base nutes. After that, what's my best dry option?
Cold$moke
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Sorry OP
People ask questions and im slow to think if im mucking up a thread.
My apologies
Also no one said any nutrient lines didnt work the way they where supposed to .
I did not at least.
What i was getting at is you CAN find all the base materials thay AN uses and mix your own for a fraction of the cost
Think greenleaf nutrients basically advanced nutrients in dry form if i understand it correctly
People ask questions and im slow to think if im mucking up a thread.
My apologies
Also no one said any nutrient lines didnt work the way they where supposed to .
I did not at least.
What i was getting at is you CAN find all the base materials thay AN uses and mix your own for a fraction of the cost
Think greenleaf nutrients basically advanced nutrients in dry form if i understand it correctly
907cannabis
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Oh and thanks guys, it seems that the extra feeding and calmag did the trick. I actually think the whole plant took on a darker shade, I didn't think they could change color back at all but most leaves look better and darker.
New growth around buds for sure does and the plant is growing steady.
New growth around buds for sure does and the plant is growing steady.