2 dead in school shooting in KY

[dandyrandy]

All this talk about the difference in maturity of kids. Look at an Amish 10 year old and a quote normal kid that plays video games etc. Which child is more mature and in the real world? I know tons of Amish. Religion has nothing to do with it. It's about structure.

 

[schuylaar]

There's a reason why the NRA won't let their lackeys in DC spend any money on studying gun violence, because if the public new the truth they would be outraged.

this is truth; they don't wish to know, so much so, sandy hook has it's own conspiracy theory website..that's what righties do when they don't like the facts..they make up stories aka LIES.

 

[Cold$moke]

Sorry ive seen enough peice of shit meth he

That's the point, by the time the parent noticed it's too late.

Hasn't been enough school shootings for you to realize how completely fucking retarded you sound?

I've never said this to someone before but you're a completely fucking shit parent.

Yea shit parenting all of them lol

There's always some kind of sign
Weather they admitnit or not

Just cause they where too "busy" to notice

Little tommy getting.more and more violent,tourtureing animals, killing cats you know the normal things normal kids do right?

Just cause someone can fuck doesnt mean they should have kids

And just cause someone has kids does not make them a parent.


You obviously do not have children
Peace

 

[Cold$moke]

All this talk about the difference in maturity of kids. Look at an Amish 10 year old and a quote normal kid that plays video games etc. Which child is more mature and in the real world? I know tons of Amish. Religion has nothing to do with it. It's about structure.

Wow
Thank you sir my point exactly

Same can be said for a farm kid and a city kid

Lol hunting isnt "gangsta" to a country kid

 

[Cold$moke]

I think the main problem with the country is
Everone is becomeing such pussies they cant handle normal life.

Why would you kill a man
1. Causing physical harm to myself or others.
2. To protect life and property (and yes ill call the cops rather then shoot a robber) but if he is armed hes done.


Those are really the only 2 reasons i can think.of for a justifiable homicide.

Not the popular guys are picking on me...oooh cry me a fuckin river.

Not that bitch broke my phone so im gonna stab her in the neck with a pencil....


How many murders are committed with firearms
Vs a good old fassion steak knife screwdriver or hammer , or automobile.

I think they will over shadow the gun violence lol

 

[dandyrandy]

But the Amish don't have guns. It would certainly help to ban guns. But it's not the real problem unless guns are in the hands of people who aren't very grounded in reality. That's a problem with any carry concealed or not. No way to know which is crazier. I own and use guns. I choose not to carry. Back in my day as a youth in my area things were different. But I was from a very rural setting. I would imagine if kids from the city saw us making lard they would have thought we were the Beverly Hillbillies. But in Appalachia. We didn't have any money but weren't envious. But with 2 tv channels our influence inputs were limited. Now kids on Facebook are finding porno ads in kids games.

 

[Wilderb]

Just curious, how many in this thread have been shot at/shot back?
I'm guessing some perhaps.
It Is a different thing. Funny how everybody has plans on what they will do. When shit hits the fan, things tend to go out the window.
Funny thing, I used to carry, it was illegal back then. Now it is legal, and because I don't travel in the same circles, I don't.
Bad situations get worse when people are armed.
Just my opinion.
WE

 

[Cold$moke]

Are you sure the amish dont use guns?i thought they hunted?

I carry concealed because there are a lot of meth and oxy users up here looking for their next high.

Sorry i wont feel bad if one tries to rob me and i put him down not saying im trigger happey
And will aways try to defuse the situation
But if shit goes sour i would not hesitate

Good riddens to bad rubbish
not that i want that though
but i refuse to be a victim

Banning guns would only take away the good guys guns (and some bad guys im sure)

But you will NEVER EVER get all the guns off the streets outa criminal hands
Sorry impossible.

 

[Cold$moke]

Just curious, how many in this thread have been shot at/shot back?
I'm guessing some perhaps.
It Is a different thing. Funny how everybody has plans on what they will do. When shit hits the fan, things tend to go out the window.
Funny thing, I used to carry, it was illegal back then. Now it is legal, and because I don't travel in the same circles, I don't.
Bad situations get worse when people are armed.
Just my opinion.
WE

Not like i want to lol fuck i miss america from the days you could feel safe to do what ever.

These are not those days sorry way too many peices of shit out there



But honestly the days i chose not to carry

Are days when there are psychos hangin out at the store. So i carry
Im not around any evil people so i dont carry because of who i run with or anything like that.

If i didnt love weed so much i was going to be a cop lol

Never had to shoot at or.be shot.at.by anyone

But its not a problem as i have that kind of mind set
Instilled by my father who shot at and was shot at

I know i see TONS of people at the range or in gunstore who are for lack of a better term
Cowards lol they think g he gun gives them power

Wrong a gun is an extension of you its only as strong and true as the person who wields it. Imo

These are the people that dont need a gun
Or will be shot with their own gun.

Peace

 

[Cold$moke]

Just curious, how many in this thread have been shot at/shot back?
I'm guessing some perhaps.
It Is a different thing. Funny how everybody has plans on what they will do. When shit hits the fan, things tend to go out the window.
Funny thing, I used to carry, it was illegal back then. Now it is legal, and because I don't travel in the same circles, I don't.
Bad situations get worse when people are armed.
Just my opinion.
WE

I will agree bad situations get worse when the wrong kind of people are armed.

(This applies to pussy cops who cant take the heat as well . as in shooting an inocent man when hes trying to show his concealed carry permit)

And by saying the circles you where in

Would you not agree that it was the wrong crowd to have guns?

Lol this is why i carry becuase of all the wrong circles out there that intersect my own circle.


Which is me and my family (the only circle that matters to me)

 

[Cold$moke]

Also i should make it clear i would neber WANT
To shoot anyone

As the legal headache would be shit im sure
Unless it was unequivocally a clean shoot

 

[whitebb2727]

I have to disagree

Look at some of the kid shooters

Come on now its not a special gene they have.

it was trained into them to be safe

Sorry i respectfully disagree

Disagree. You know how many times the excuse "I thought it was unloaded" has been used by some one that acccidently shot someone?

Same with kids. They do stupid stuff. You also can't control if someone breaks in and finds your guns.

As a responsible gun owner that leaves locking them up. Its For the good. Nothing you say will change my mind. Its about gun safety. That just should be part of the rules now like always treat a gun as if its loaded and never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot.

 

[whitebb2727]

But the Amish don't have guns. It would certainly help to ban guns. But it's not the real problem unless guns are in the hands of people who aren't very grounded in reality. That's a problem with any carry concealed or not. No way to know which is crazier. I own and use guns. I choose not to carry. Back in my day as a youth in my area things were different. But I was from a very rural setting. I would imagine if kids from the city saw us making lard they would have thought we were the Beverly Hillbillies. But in Appalachia. We didn't have any money but weren't envious. But with 2 tv channels our influence inputs were limited. Now kids on Facebook are finding porno ads in kids games.

Amish have guns.

 

[Wilderb]

Not like i want to lol fuck i miss america from the days you could feel safe to do what ever.

These are not those days sorry way too many peices of shit out there



But honestly the days i chose not to carry

Are days when there are psychos hangin out at the store. So i carry
Im not around any evil people so i dont carry because of who i run with or anything like that.

If i didnt love weed so much i was going to be a cop lol

Never had to shoot at or.be shot.at.by anyone

But its not a problem as i have that kind of mind set
Instilled by my father who shot at and was shot at

I know i see TONS of people at the range or in gunstore who are for lack of a better term
Cowards lol they think g he gun gives them power

Wrong a gun is an extension of you its only as strong and true as the person who wields it. Imo

These are the people that dont need a gun
Or will be shot with their own gun.

Peace

I sincerely hope that you never have to shoot at anyone and no one shoots at you.
I notice that you mention that you see "psychos" when you are NOT carrying. Do you think there is any correlation between the fact that you are unarmed and how you perceive threats? I'll be honest, I think I felt a difference. But like I said, the circles you travel/live in can def be factors.
I myself have evolved on this issue. Grew up on guns. Every gun in the house I grew up in was kept loaded at ALL times. Hunted.
I never had a huge arsenal at home but my old crowd was so heavily armed that I had access to just about anything (I admit a .50 is a fuckton of fun to shoot).
But after a bad situation,I had to ask myself, am i really keeping myself and my family safe? From who? The government? Not a chance.
My enemies? They too are armed and frankly I would probably never see it coming. Intruders? Statistically unlikely.
Now I keep a gun free house. Not weapon free, just gun free.
I support the right for people to keep guns. But I also believe in the words "well regulated".
BTW, ever notice that often LEOs miss when in shootouts? Unless they are point blank? And they qualify how many times a year?
All bets are off when the shit hits the fan.
WE
WE

 

[Wilderb]

I will agree bad situations get worse when the wrong kind of people are armed.

(This applies to pussy cops who cant take the heat as well . as in shooting an inocent man when hes trying to show his concealed carry permit)

And by saying the circles you where in

Would you not agree that it was the wrong crowd to have guns?

Lol this is why i carry becuase of all the wrong circles out there that intersect my own circle.


Which is me and my family (the only circle that matters to me)

Most in the circles I traveled in had many, many, many years of military training and or combat. Who more qualified?
Just because they may be engaging in what some would call "illegal" activities doesn't mean they are the wrong crowd to have guns. I hold the law in fairly low esteem.

 

[Cold$moke]

@whitebb2727 Again the 4 rules apply
1. The gun is always always always loaded.

2 keep your finger OFF OF THE TRIGGER un til ready to fire

3.Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to see destroyed at all times

4. Be sure of your target and and whats beyond it

If these are followed 0 accidents happen FACT..

I also agree not everyone is capable of it
And should keep there guns in un ready to use condtions and locked sorry i forget i live the sticks kinda lol


@Wilderb
I hope i never have to shoot anyone either
It will be on them.
But i im not looking for trouble either

I also like i said carry alot because of where i live
If me and the fam wana go for a hike i always have a gun at least im not out to kill anyone lol

 

[Cold$moke]

Most in the circles I traveled in had many, many, many years of military training and or combat. Who more qualified?
Just because they may be engaging in what some would call "illegal" activities doesn't mean they are the wrong crowd to have guns. I hold the law in fairly low esteem.

Agreed to a point

And it justifies.my point about never being able to keep guns outa the hands of those
Engaged in criminal activity

 

[Cold$moke]

Also i probably practice more then most law enforcement

I have personally asked a cop what he was carrying he said he didnt know lol

Not all cops are gun guys lol

 

[whitebb2727]

@whitebb2727 Again the 4 rules apply
1. The gun is always always always loaded.

2 keep your finger OFF OF THE TRIGGER un til ready to fire

3.Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to see destroyed at all times

4. Be sure of your target and and whats beyond it

If these are followed 0 accidents happen FACT..

I also agree not everyone is capable of it
And should keep there guns in un ready to use condtions and locked sorry i forget i live the sticks kinda lol


@Wilderb
I hope i never have to shoot anyone either
It will be on them.
But i im not looking for trouble either

I also like i said carry alot because of where i live
If me and the fam wana go for a hike i always have a gun at least im not out to kill anyone lol

You can't garuntee those rules are followed except for yourself. You may very well be right about your kids and nothing happen. You can't garuntee that.

All I'm saying is its smart to lock guns up. Get a rapid safe or two to keep around the house. Teach the kids the combo. Not hard.

I'm sure that when I took my hunters education class they taught to keep guns locked up. Other gun training courses I've taken did.

Its my duty to try to get gun owners to wise up and lock their guns up.

We are at a tipping point that if we don't give a little as gun owners and adopt a few extra rules and lock our guns up we may be facing more guns laws and even up to gun bans.

 

[Cold$moke]

Instead of rapid safe
I prefer tac wall stlye hidden in plain sight lol

Also true what works for me.might not be for everyone.

I just KNOW my children have 0 interest in the guns
Other then when we are out shooting.

But i agree its a good idea