2 dead in school shooting in KY

whitebb2727

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So with us on this site - does your smart home record you growing federally illegal weed? Not so smart to record your crimes and not have immediate access to a weapon which is there in the crime den. I have a czech gsd as a warning alarm but im not running to a safe. I have friends who think they are secure but the act of recording yourself in your house seems counterintuitive.
Hey. You ever think you could put a quick safe in the kitchen or living room or both?

They literally open instantly.
 

cookie master

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Party politics are a fiasco. I dont think either party has any idea what their goals are other than to conflict with each other.
 

cookie master

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I dont have kids#1, I like keeping those things nearby at all times jic. With kids or others its obviously a whole different situation. I guess if my gun gets stolen, hopefully someone will go to jail for it.
 

whitebb2727

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Here's the thing. Sure. Lets say I believe some one that says their kids know and no one ever leaves home and knows for fact what happens 24/7. Sure. Maybe.

Problem is when thousands or more say the same thing. You know not all of those people are responsible.


Now what? Well we have to become responsible guns owners and lock them up unless carrying. Use rapid safes. Safety training for kids.

Other things I've already listed. We have to. As a gun owners can't keep ignoring what's going on.
 

cookie master

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Btw real guns are rifles or shotguns, the only reason to use a handgun is thats the only gun near you. And Im all for a parent being convicted for any guncrime a child commits. That may get people to use safes. Im all for safes around children, at the same time I think its ok for kids to have access to a gun. How id handle it is convict parents of any crimes that the kid does- then the parents will be more dilligent on the training. A kid in a house full of guns is asking for trouble without beating it into the kids head that this is no toy.
 

cookie master

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That shows your ignorance- the most common use my gun will see is to create noise, holes in paper, and joy. Guns arent built to kill people or theyd be the biggest fail of an invention ever. Almost no guns ever kill a person.
 

UncleBuck

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That shows your ignorance- the most common use my gun will see is to create noise, holes in paper, and joy. Guns arent built to kill people or theyd be the biggest fail of an invention ever. Almost no guns ever kill a person.
white males most commonly use guns to kill themselves. or other white males. thousands of white males kill white males with guns every year. that's just a fact.
 

cookie master

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I havent researched this event but In other events I think prescription drugs caused the killings. I guess that great that white males are killing themselves. Maybe if we try harder, Like 20x harder we can kill each other at a rate near black males- but not with legal guns. Murders with legal guns are like 1% of murders.
 

SneekyNinja

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Btw real guns are rifles or shotguns, the only reason to use a handgun is thats the only gun near you. And Im all for a parent being convicted for any guncrime a child commits. That may get people to use safes. Im all for safes around children, at the same time I think its ok for kids to have access to a gun. How id handle it is convict parents of any crimes that the kid does- then the parents will be more dilligent on the training. A kid in a house full of guns is asking for trouble without beating it into the kids head that this is no toy.
Its pretty obvious that you don't have kids.

Im pretty sure you're full of shit now though, because noone would choose a long rifle in an enclosed area at short range.

That's why they invented submachine guns for military/law enforcement use.

But out of interest, what do you think is more effective at disabling a target at close range. An AR15 or a S&W 1911 chambered in .45?
 

Cold$moke

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My problem with leaving guns laying around is that kids are stupid. Point blank. Not to offend any parents here. I'm sure everyone of us has memories of something stupid we did young.

No matter how well a kid is educated about guns. They lack impulse control and do stupid shit.

There is no way of assuring someone doesn't break in and use them or steal them.

There was a time and place that leaving a gun out was ok. The time is not now. Things have changed from the days you could leave your doors unlocked.
not my kids

It helps to have instilled it in them from a young age

Sorry if i can be safe with a gun at 10 my kids are sure as shit.safe to have them
Concealed but not locked

Sorry if you guys cant trust your kids

Mine are not dumb or remotely that impulsive

They dont even care they are there :)
 

UncleBuck

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Obviously your not a gun person

The 4 rules allways apply

Especially when identification of a target is involved.

Please
maybe you should tell that to the gun people who kill themselves or their family members 43 times more often than they kill an intruder.
 

Cold$moke

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The Wild West had something like 4x less murders per capita than our supposedly "modern" society.

If this "crimeless" society is so great, why do you feel the need to carry all the time? Small dick syndrome?
Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it .

Funny thing is i always see scumbags when i say i dont need my gun today ;)
 

Cold$moke

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maybe you should tell that to the gun people who kill themselves or their family members 43 times more often than they kill an intruder.
Not my fault they dont train

Just cause you buy a gun doesnt mean you are qualified to run one
Guns dont kill people do.

Duh
 
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