SSRI's, Children, School Shootings ?

[MichiganMedGrower]

your fat ugly man wife is a piece of shit with his/her head buried too.
I've shown you the FDA studies that show a marked increase in violence when ssri's are used.
The same warning is mandated on the fucking label you idiot.

Most doctors will stick with the AMA stock answer and bow to insurance prescribing regulations until they change them. Then not admit they were wrong or have to take responsibility after changed.

This is the big pharma cycle. It is a murderous shame. The AMA and big pharma need the revamp just like the rest of our big business and political mess.

The meds will eventually be completely replaced with their next magic drug. “Wellecta” “Now non Violent” ask your doctor.

Lol.

 

[chiqifella]

Its obvious to me that the few here that believe ssri's
have nothing to do with school shootings are likely
off of their meds.

 

[UncleBuck]

Where is your proof of this?

are you asking for proof that the united states has a much higher rate of violent crime, especially gun violence, than other nations, despite similar rates of SSRI prescriptions?

ok.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate-per-million-people

united states: 42 homicides per 100,000
australia: 10 homicides per 100,000
UK: 12 per 100,000
canada: 16 per 100,000
iceland: 12 per 100,000

http://www.businessinsider.com/countries-largest-antidepressant-drug-users-2016-2

iceland: 106 per 1000
australia: 89 per 1000
UK: 71 per 1000
canada: 86 per 1000
US: 110 per 1000

so homicide rate is 3-4 time shigher, despite our antidepressant rate not even being double.

your argument just fell apart (again), because it is a bad argument.

i'd be embarrassed

 

[UncleBuck]

The FDA mandates suicide warnings on the ssri label. ever wonder why they do that?

i've explained this to you multiple times.

SSRIs are prescribed to people who already suffer from suicidal ideation. the effect of the SSRIs is to lift people out of a depressive state. this sometimes leaves them with a window where they are still suicidal, but not too depressed to do anything about it anymore.

you are not bright. please try to listen to what those with a doctorate in psychology are trying to tell you, sock.

 

[UncleBuck]

Its obvious to me that the few here that believe ssri's
have nothing to do with school shootings are likely
off of their meds.

SSRIs are prescribed in just about every nation on earth.

weekly gun massacres only occur here though.

thus we can rule out SSRIs as the cause using mill's methods.

your arguments are very bad. i'd be embarrassed.

 

[UncleBuck]

This is the big pharma cycle. It is a murderous shame.

no matter how you try to misplace the blame on antidepressants which work well for millions of people and are provably not the underlying cause, the fact remains that we are the only nation with weekly gun massacres because we are the only nation that allows people to gain access to weapons of war so easily.

your canard is obvious and your arguments are bad.

i'd be embarrassed.

 

[tyler.durden]

are you asking for proof that the united states has a much higher rate of violent crime, especially gun violence, than other nations, despite similar rates of SSRI prescriptions?

ok.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate-per-million-people

united states: 42 homicides per 100,000
australia: 10 homicides per 100,000
UK: 12 per 100,000
canada: 16 per 100,000
iceland: 12 per 100,000

http://www.businessinsider.com/countries-largest-antidepressant-drug-users-2016-2

iceland: 106 per 1000
australia: 89 per 1000
UK: 71 per 1000
canada: 86 per 1000
US: 110 per 1000

so homicide rate is 3-4 time shigher, despite our antidepressant rate not even being double.

your argument just fell apart (again), because it is a bad argument.

i'd be embarrassed

I'm surprised that Australia has a the lowest murder rate of the 5 listed countries. I assumed they were crazier than that...

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

are you asking for proof that the united states has a much higher rate of violent crime, especially gun violence, than other nations, despite similar rates of SSRI prescriptions?

ok.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate-per-million-people

united states: 42 homicides per 100,000
australia: 10 homicides per 100,000
UK: 12 per 100,000
canada: 16 per 100,000
iceland: 12 per 100,000

http://www.businessinsider.com/countries-largest-antidepressant-drug-users-2016-2

iceland: 106 per 1000
australia: 89 per 1000
UK: 71 per 1000
canada: 86 per 1000
US: 110 per 1000

so homicide rate is 3-4 time shigher, despite our antidepressant rate not even being double.

your argument just fell apart (again), because it is a bad argument.

i'd be embarrassed

Ok. That shows deaths by violence. What about attacks that did not end in death since there are less guns. Stabbings, blunt objects, fist fights. Even yelling at someone can be pretty violent and get you arrested.

And again. I was never disputing the amount of gun deaths in this country. Only answering your next complaint.

And you are the only one arguing. We are trying to discuss something. You only offer one point of view and automatically discredit any other info for yourself. That is not smart.

There is plenty of evidence of people having problems with their thoughts and emotions with antidepressants. Altering brain chemicals is a bad way to treat most of these patients.

And my info about ssri’s is second hand from doctors that told me. So your wife alone believing the ama is correct is not proof of anything.

We fear these drugs in our house. They have cased bad things to happen. Or at least the patient acted that way but only on those drugs.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

no matter how you try to misplace the blame on antidepressants which work well for millions of people and are provably not the underlying cause, the fact remains that we are the only nation with weekly gun massacres because we are the only nation that allows people to gain access to weapons of war so easily.

your canard is obvious and your arguments are bad.

i'd be embarrassed.

I would be embarrassed if I spoke to people like you too.

 

[UncleBuck]

Ok. That shows deaths by violence. What about attacks that did not end in death since there are less guns. Stabbings, blunt objects, fist fights. Even yelling at someone can be pretty violent and get you arrested.

And again. I was never disputing the amount of gun deaths in this country. Only answering your next complaint.

And you are the only one arguing. We are trying to discuss something. You only offer one point of view and automatically discredit any other info for yourself. That is not smart.

There is plenty of evidence of people having problems with their thoughts and emotions with antidepressants. Altering brain chemicals is a bad way to treat most of these patients.

And my info about ssri’s is second hand from doctors that told me. So your wife alone believing the ama is correct is not proof of anything.

We fear these drugs in our house. They have cased bad things to happen. Or at least the patient acted that way but only on those drugs.

no counterargument, no rebuttal, no statistics, no facts of any sort.

you could have just said WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

And @UncleBuck they are never going to take the guns already out there away so you might as well just cry about it forever.

And as usual I only commented from my experience about the ssri’s and all the rest of this drivel is you trying to make me agree with you while you cast insults.

I wasn’t blaming anything. You always are. I just think you have a very narrow view here and in most things you write about.

I need a lot more information to form a strong opinion. You do it from a random chart on the internet apparently.

And you still haven’t answered any direct questions from me in a year of posts.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

no counterargument, no rebuttal, no statistics, no facts of any sort.

you could have just said WWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I asked direct questions after conceding to the suicide stats.

What are you ever talking about? You only want to fight about nothing. There are valid facts on both sides of your argument. There always are. That’s why always falling to one side is dumb.

 

[pabloesqobar]

 

[UncleBuck]

And @UncleBuck they are never going to take the guns already out there away so you might as well just cry about it forever.

gun buybacks have worked in every country they've been tried in. there is precedent.

and now your transparently false claim that this isn't about guns has been exposed as a lie by you.

this is only about blaming something other than your beloved guns for all the gun massacres happening in our country.

but your arguments are bad and you are failing.

i'd be embarrassed

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

are you asking for proof that the united states has a much higher rate of violent crime, especially gun violence, than other nations, despite similar rates of SSRI prescriptions?

ok.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate-per-million-people

united states: 42 homicides per 100,000
australia: 10 homicides per 100,000
UK: 12 per 100,000
canada: 16 per 100,000
iceland: 12 per 100,000

http://www.businessinsider.com/countries-largest-antidepressant-drug-users-2016-2

iceland: 106 per 1000
australia: 89 per 1000
UK: 71 per 1000
canada: 86 per 1000
US: 110 per 1000

so homicide rate is 3-4 time shigher, despite our antidepressant rate not even being double.

your argument just fell apart (again), because it is a bad argument.

i'd be embarrassed

i've explained this to you multiple times.

SSRIs are prescribed to people who already suffer from suicidal ideation. the effect of the SSRIs is to lift people out of a depressive state. this sometimes leaves them with a window where they are still suicidal, but not too depressed to do anything about it anymore.

you are not bright. please try to listen to what those with a doctorate in psychology are trying to tell you, sock.

SSRIs are prescribed in just about every nation on earth.

weekly gun massacres only occur here though.

thus we can rule out SSRIs as the cause using mill's methods.

your arguments are very bad. i'd be embarrassed.

no matter how you try to misplace the blame on antidepressants which work well for millions of people and are provably not the underlying cause, the fact remains that we are the only nation with weekly gun massacres because we are the only nation that allows people to gain access to weapons of war so easily.

your canard is obvious and your arguments are bad.

i'd be embarrassed.

Wow, you sure seem to know a lot about SSRIs





You cited businessinsider for your facts. LOL

lol, someone making $9501 is gonna be covered by medicaid. businessinsider really needs to get their shit together and do some real basic fact checking.

Hypocrite

noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs,principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially aperson whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude,especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his orher public statements.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

gun buybacks have worked in every country they've been tried in. there is precedent.

and now your transparently false claim that this isn't about guns has been exposed as a lie by you.

this is only about blaming something other than your beloved guns for all the gun massacres happening in our country.

but your arguments are bad and you are failing.

i'd be embarrassed

I don’t own any guns you idiot. If I hunted I would own the proper rifle. But I honestly have bad feelings about shooting animals when I can buy food easily. I would have to be very hungry to kill one.

And I am likely much more aware than you what happens when a loaded gun is too easily accessible to the wrong person. I got rid of my guns many years ago. I don’t need them. I agree about temptation. And I highly agree about better screening and education.

I don’t agree that the government should tell me what I can and can’t do or own. I feel it is my responsibility to do what is right.

I grow weed in peace out here. What is your problem?

You learn nothing. You just state your own thoughts as if they mean something.

Why don’t you want people to be responsible for themselves?

 

[UncleBuck]

Wow, you sure seem to know a lot about SSRIs

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You cited businessinsider for your facts. LOL

the chemtrail guy swoops in to white knight for two sock puppets!

awesome

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

the chemtrail guy swoops in to white knight for two sock puppets!

awesome

...if anyone knows sock puppets....



also, anyone who doesn't understand or believe in "geoengineering", "cloud seeding", "chemtrails", etc. should really take the time to watch this:

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

...if anyone knows sock puppets....

That’s what I was going to say. Lol

 

[tyler.durden]

...if anyone knows sock puppets....



also, anyone who doesn't understand or believe in "geoengineering", "cloud seeding", "chemtrails", etc. should really take the time to watch this:

No offense, but this dude Matt Landman seems like a true nutcase. He seems to be into most conspiracy theories (GMOs, false flags, vaccines), even going so far as to support flat earth. Jesus. In looking into him briefly, he does not seem well educated or well informed. I would be wary of him as a source for knowledge...