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reallybigjesusfreak

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Im gonna have to learn how to do that... It makes way too much sense not to do so...
it only sucks when youre in a space
I have a LOT of flower right now, so in my most current run of bodhi A.S.S. (Appalachian super skunk, a hard to get pack and no more are being made - b lost the dad and moved on), I chucked the whole tent with the best male from my seed pop. Maybe not the best male ass, but a good one.

I just put them up to dry. I probably have a few thousand seeds by the looks of it. F1's of course. But good stock. And the few that popped out are large and tiger striped.

If I could do it, anyone can. Street value? $0.00 since anyone can do it. But this what you are buying if you don't go with a breeder with a good track record. For all I know, every one will either hermie or be a male. And that is who is on instagram posting pics and talking hot shite.
oh yeah. I popped half my pack, am growing out 3 fems, and am saving the rest of the pack until I can do the same thing you did. This shits too good to lose.
 

ttystikk

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it only sucks when youre in a space

oh yeah. I popped half my pack, am growing out 3 fems, and am saving the rest of the pack until I can do the same thing you did. This shits too good to lose.
Learn the art of taking cuttings. The genetics don't change and the second time around you know exactly how the plant will grow and respond. And this is how you can keep the really good cuts around.
 

greg nr

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Learn the art of taking cuttings. The genetics don't change and the second time around you know exactly how the plant will grow and respond. And this is how you can keep the really good cuts around.
Sigh.... With a plant count, keeping clones is a frustrating task. If you find one cut you love and want to grow over and over, great. But if you want to play the field and try new strains, you just can't keep the last fav around for long. One, maybe. Two, that's the max. After that, you are sacrificing seed pops and the males will keep you to a min count in the flower tent.

It would be great if the plant count applied only to flowering plants, but a 5 foot mom in veg counts the same as a three day youngling in my state.

Sucks, but no moms in my garden.
 

ttystikk

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Sigh.... With a plant count, keeping clones is a frustrating task. If you find one cut you love and want to grow over and over, great. But if you want to play the field and try new strains, you just can't keep the last fav around for long. One, maybe. Two, that's the max. After that, you are sacrificing seed pops and the males will keep you to a min count in the flower tent.

It would be great if the plant count applied only to flowering plants, but a 5 foot mom in veg counts the same as a three day youngling in my state.

Sucks, but no moms in my garden.
That's a bummer. Around here, the cops don't count the babies unless they're really trying to bust your balls. It is a blessing to live in Colorado and I don't forget it.
 

reallybigjesusfreak

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yeah I dont have a plant count or anything, its all illegal, so I need to be able to shut down from time to time, which sucks. I can keep seeds though, clones are a bit harder. I understand what youre saying though, and I do keep moms/take and run clones when I can. I just have a lot of different stuff I want to try and only a 2x5 and a 4x4 tent.
 

Frank Nitty

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With all due respect, any company that wants to keep its best people offers raises to reflect their growing skill and experience.

If they don't, those people will go somewhere that does.

Maybe you need to be in a different company or line of work. No disrespect meant.
I had the best line of work ever, making tax free dollars til someone let a rat in the house... Well maybe not the best, but I did alright in it...
 

Frank Nitty

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Sigh.... With a plant count, keeping clones is a frustrating task. If you find one cut you love and want to grow over and over, great. But if you want to play the field and try new strains, you just can't keep the last fav around for long. One, maybe. Two, that's the max. After that, you are sacrificing seed pops and the males will keep you to a min count in the flower tent.

It would be great if the plant count applied only to flowering plants, but a 5 foot mom in veg counts the same as a three day youngling in my state.

Sucks, but no moms in my garden.
Fucked up in my state too...
 

thenotsoesoteric

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There are plenty of people still paying top dollar for good weed. And in legal states it is the outdoor and the shitty grown indoor dropping below $5 a gram, imo. I haven't got really high off any weed I've bought from rec shops here in Oregon. Some good tasting but the flowers are always weak because they've been bounced or rolled for resin.

I still expect the US federal government to resist all out legalization which will always create a vacuum for black markets.
 

ttystikk

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There are plenty of people still paying top dollar for good weed. And in legal states it is the outdoor and the shitty grown indoor dropping below $5 a gram, imo. I haven't got really high off any weed I've bought from rec shops here in Oregon. Some good tasting but the flowers are always weak because they've been bounced or rolled for resin.

I still expect the US federal government to resist all out legalization which will always create a vacuum for black markets.
IMO, what needs replacing is the Federal Government- with one that is far more responsive to We the People than the Almighty Dollar.
 

Lucky Luke

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People are finding out how easy it is to make your own seeds. Once you get some decent genetics there is absolutely no reason to ever buy seeds again.
People have always known how easy it is to make seeds. Farming is nothing new and its perhaps the oldest cultivated crop.

Variety is the spice of life.
 

Lucky Luke

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Da fuk?

Why the hell not?

Skill and experience costs money and makes a huge difference.
Hey if you want to earn what you did 10 years ago, go for it, id rather have mine at least move with inflation.

Australia recently announced, for the second time in two years a rise in the minimum wage due to the cost of living. It is now $720 a week. 30 years ago I think I earnt around $400 on the minimum wage.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Hey if you want to earn what you did 10 years ago, go for it, id rather have mine at least move with inflation.

Australia recently announced, for the second time in two years a rise in the minimum wage due to the cost of living. It is now $720 a week. 30 years ago I think I earnt around $400 on the minimum wage.
the problem with raising the minimum wage, is that within a year, maybe two at the most, inflation will eat that raise, and more. the minute the minimum wage is raised, the price of things goes up. slowly, they don't want to shock you, but trust me, two years after the minimum goes up, you'll be in the same place you are now, or worse
 

Observe & Report

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rest of the world still needs seeds, I don't see the price changing to much on what are normally sold out runs. Price of less popular or less sought after lines may get a little cheaper depending on demand but we are already seeing that with the reverse auctions and more breeders breeding.
A lot of the cost of seeds is due to resends due to customs seizures.
All of the "western" states in the Americas, Europe, Russia, Australia/NZ, and South Africa are going to go legal. By this point they pretty much only have prohibition due to pressure by the USA. Only the Islamic states in the ME and SE Asia are going to keep it, and the places where they have the death penalty and a culture that could never let them admit it was a mistake (China, Thailand.) I don't think there are enough growers in those states to support more than a couple of banks. I would bet even now at least half of Attitudes income comes from USA orders.
 

xtsho

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People have always known how easy it is to make seeds. Farming is nothing new and its perhaps the oldest cultivated crop.

Variety is the spice of life.
You are right. Cannabis cultivation can be traced back at least 12000 years. People were growing cannabis well before some slick marketers got people to believe that they needed a dozen bottles of nutrients and additives with fancy labels to grow a weed or pollen chuckers started giving their crosses cool sounding names and put them in fancy packaging.
 

Dynamo626

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Rip off rat bastard prices in my neighbourhood. I off my extra for half that whether an 8th or an oz. If a buddy shows up so broke he can only afford a gram he gets an 8th with no obligation to pay for it.

If I can get enough to cover my power costs then I'm good to grow. $150 for a 30g oz and if you want it made into cocobudder another $10 to pay for the organic coconut oil and liquid sunflower lecithin. I get to save the puck for my smoothies. :)
well that would be in your neighborhood
in my neighborhood im 10 cheeper on the eigth and 30 on the half 50 on the oz. not to mention my quality is much better. even if i was charging more im the one taking the risk! its not like im the only game in town there are probably hundreds. people are more than welcome to go down the road and pay more for lesser quality
 

Lucky Luke

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All of the "western" states in the Americas, Europe, Russia, Australia/NZ, and South Africa are going to go legal. By this point they pretty much only have prohibition due to pressure by the USA. Only the Islamic states in the ME and SE Asia are going to keep it, and the places where they have the death penalty and a culture that could never let them admit it was a mistake (China, Thailand.) I don't think there are enough growers in those states to support more than a couple of banks. I would bet even now at least half of Attitudes income comes from USA orders.
I'm in Australia and don't see us becoming legal any time soon. I don't see England making any moves that way either. Western Europe doesn't really need to become legal as its relaxed anyway and I don't see Russia becoming legal in the mid term at least. I think South Africa are having more important issues trying to be sorted out but I could be wrong there. New Zealand will be having a national vote on the subject this year, be interesting to see how that goes but they are big smokers and growers so id expect that to pass. Then will come the hows.

If Australia goes legal it will have to be federal laws, and judging by whats happening and the costs and requirements of growing legal medical weed in Australia ATM (and only I believe 4 doctors in the whole country who are authorised to offer a prescription for it- you have to be dying basically). It wont be home growers who will benefit.
The small advances in the movement seem to be toward authorised cannabis available from big pharma. I'm not interested in that nor am I interested in plant counts. Legalization is not a big topic atm, we have a federal election coming up next year and none of the major parties are talking about it- at all. The Greens have brought the topic up now and again but without any major support it doesn't gain traction.

Seeds will always be a market whether the growers are BM or legal. Some of us like verity.
 
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Frank Nitty

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I'm in Australia and don't see us becoming legal any time soon. I don't see England making any moves that way either. Western Europe doesn't really need to become legal as its relaxed anyway and I don't see Russia becoming legal in the mid term at least. I think South Africa are having more important issues trying to be sorted out but I could be wrong there. New Zealand will be having a national vote on the subject this year, be interesting to see how that goes but they are big smokers and growers so id expect that to pass. Then will come the hows.

If Australia goes legal it will have to be federal laws, and judging by whats happening and the costs and requirements of growing legal medical weed in Australia ATM (and only I believe 4 doctors in the whole country who are authorised to offer a prescription for it- you have to be dying basically).
The small advances in the movement seem to be toward authorised cannabis available from big pharma. I'm not interested in that nor am I interested in plant counts. Legalization is not a big topic atm, we have a federal election coming up next year and none of the major parties are talking about it- at all. The Greens have brought the topic up now and again but without any major support it doesn't gain traction.

Seeds will always be a market whether the growers are BM or legal. Some of us like verity.
Things are tough all over...
 

too larry

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Actually, some places like Radio Ridge Nursery sell direct from the breeder cuts and give a commission to the breeders for every clone they sell. Radio Ridge has a bunch of Bodhi's best cuts and they've got a bunch of cuts from Strayfox and MTG too. Most others get the best cuts and don't give a commission. Clone nurseries just want you to keep buying clones from them, that's why they'll sell you the best cuts. They're not competing with you on the flower market, they're competing against other clone nurseries, which might not make sense to you if you're just a small-time grower but a lot of larger growers will buy hundreds to thousands of clones from clone nurseries instead of going through the hassle all of producing clones themselves
I have friends who sell clones. They do 400-500 clones at a time. In order to sell, they have to have top cuts from the top strains. The market is crowded right now.
 
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