Screw you Trump!

Stink Bug

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Try taking those subsidies away. What you are complaining about is other people's subsidies, not anything you benefit from. THAT is the hallmark of today's right wing.
There is a certain foundation that needs to be maintained in order for our country to survive. Handing out welfare checks to those able but unwilling to work is not part of that. Yes there some that need the governments help and I have no problem with that. But when illegal aliens receive more per month than our elderly that paid into the system their entire lives. And veterans go without.. That is political pandering in order to bolster a voting base. That's what I have a problem with.
And yes illegals are not allowed to vote. It still draws those that can vote into their folds. Although Obama encouraged illegals to get out and vote in the last election. The man simply did not care about the constitution, that was my biggest beef with him.
 

Tangerine_

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No disagreement with you that running any successful business requires an large amount of skill and knowledge because if you don't have them as well as the ability to work long hours, you won't make it. You name it: printing, transportation, farming, nail factories, pumping oil. They all require smart business management but do they require the same from its workers?

Do you find it dismissive of me to say that the growth in this country isn't going to come from these industries?
I think labeling commercial driving as something that doesn't require much knowledge to be a bit naïve.
 

Tangerine_

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There is a certain foundation that needs to be maintained in order for our country to survive. Handing out welfare checks to those able but unwilling to work is not part of that. Yes there some that need the governments help and I have no problem with that. But when illegal aliens receive more per month than our elderly that paid into the system their entire lives. And veterans go without.. That is political pandering in order to bolster a voting base. That's what I have a problem with.
And yes illegals are not allowed to vote. It still draws those that can vote into their folds. Although Obama encouraged illegals to get out and vote in the last election. The man simply did not care about the constitution, that was my biggest beef with him.
Oh FFS
 

blu3bird

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I think labeling commercial driving as something that doesn't require much knowledge to be a bit naïve.
It does require a lot of knowledge, and even more skill to be a professional driver. There's so many regulations a driver needs to understand, I'll go as far as saying that trucking is one of the most regulated industries to be in.

I don't think Fogdog is naive by any stretch, but I believe all he's saying is that you don't need a college education to get your foot into the door of the trucking industry. I could be wrong though and he is calling truckers dummies lol, I don't think he is.
 

Tim1987

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I refused to abide by my government contract, and refused a job at a Kmart because i couldnt abide by Kmarts contract the other day.
I actually thrive at repetition.
Kmart said they have a ZERO tolerance towards illicit drugs. But it was ok to take benzo if your doctor told them it was ok.
Regular testing. Fitness for work duty in the morning.

One of the criteria for suspicion was anxiety, manic behaviour, and depression.
Well Kmart can't understand that i have been, manic, depressed, and anxious since i have been a toddler.
Started smoking at 19. Calmed me down so much i wasn't anxious and could hold my thoughts a little longer.

I rang my government. Said i refuse to abide by their terms. That i am human just like them, and have the right to feel happy.

My government has reached out to me, and i think we are slowly negotiating an understanding.
I said i am saine, that nobody including them was going to tell me otherwise. That my mind does not live in a cage. Also to negotiate with me immediately, or kick me out on the street. Their choice.
They accepted my words, and we're going to work on a contract.

Feel much better.
Also it feels great to have everyone here on RIU.
I think if i wasn't here expressing myself these past months, i don't know where i'd be.

Social pressure is a very real thing.

:peace:
 

Fogdog

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I think labeling commercial driving as something that doesn't require much knowledge to be a bit naïve.
You are right, what I said was naive. Commercial driving does require a lot more specialized skill and knowledge than is commonly found among people who don't work in that industry. Add to that nerves, good decision making, stress management skills and putting up with boneheaded automobile drivers.
 

Stink Bug

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We are in this together and I wish we could get past the semantics and work together. I try hard to look at things from all sides. It's not a perfect administration now. Nor have we had any in the past. But all of the race baiting and name calling is getting us nowhere. Thank goodness we are just a bunch of potheads flapping our gums with no real consequences. I wish each and everyone of you a great and safe holiday weekend. I've got fish calling me....
 

Fogdog

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It does require a lot of knowledge, and even more skill to be a professional driver. There's so many regulations a driver needs to understand, I'll go as far as saying that trucking is one of the most regulated industries to be in.

I don't think Fogdog is naive by any stretch, but I believe all he's saying is that you don't need a college education to get your foot into the door of the trucking industry. I could be wrong though and he is calling truckers dummies lol, I don't think he is.
I'm touching on sensitive ground here.

I offended some people and they have my apologies.

A college education only means that a person had the opportunity to get a degree. It doesn't mean the person is worth a damn. Conversely, a person without a degree shouldn't be disrespected on that basis either.

Putting my reply into context:

Food production and transportation. Yeah, nothing smart about that...
I am saying that there is nothing particularly brilliant about farming (or trucking) either. Yep, you have to be smart, you have to work hard, you have to learn more than anybody thinks you do and there is a bit of luck.

Most of the people that I have known and worked with in high tech industries and considered smart, I'd call average. Some more, some less but most everybody sits near the mean in terms of intellectual ability. I include people with advanced degrees who I consider mostly average people with one or two talents and for the most part were born into an economically advantaged family. These people prove that an average person can do astounding things given: the opportunity, a stable family upbringing, role models and their own hard work. I've known a few people that I'd call brilliant and because of them, I know I'm not. That said, brilliant people are indispensable when all the ordinary ideas from average people like me no longer work. Those same people might not be a good fit for jobs that don't require groundbreaking innovation too. We are all needed somewhere. Respect labor.

Ripped Farmer's ludicrous idea that "maybe farmers should just stop producing more than they need and everybody will be sorry" misses the point that farmers depend on other people to make ends meet too. Without economic growth, farmers will be hard pressed to grow their own industry.
 

blu3bird

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I'm touching on sensitive ground here.

I offended some people and they have my apologies.

A college education only means that a person had the opportunity to get a degree. It doesn't mean the person is worth a damn. Conversely, a person without a degree shouldn't be disrespected on that basis either.

Putting my reply into context:



I am saying that there is nothing particularly brilliant about farming (or trucking) either. Yep, you have to be smart, you have to work hard, you have to learn more than anybody thinks you do and there is a bit of luck.

Most of the people that I have known and worked with in high tech industries and considered smart, I'd call average. Some more, some less but most everybody sits near the mean in terms of intellectual ability. I include people with advanced degrees who I consider mostly average people with one or two talents and for the most part were born into an economically advantaged family. These people prove that an average person can do astounding things given: the opportunity, a stable family upbringing, role models and their own hard work. I've known a few people that I'd call brilliant and because of them, I know I'm not. That said, brilliant people are indispensable when all the ordinary ideas from average people like me no longer work. Those same people might not be a good fit for jobs that don't require groundbreaking innovation too. We are all needed somewhere. Respect labor.

Ripped Farmer's ludicrous idea that "maybe farmers should just stop producing more than they need and everybody will be sorry" misses the point that farmers depend on other people to make ends meet too. Without economic growth, farmers will be hard pressed to grow their own industry.
You hit that one out of the park
 
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