How much longer should I wait to flush her?

[maxamus1]

I just posted right before you that professional cash croppers have been doing it since the 80’s in my experience. I’m a relative noob compared to those I know in the old industry. I have only been growing 4+ years perpetually but I have tested this with 3 sets of 3 known clones and best results are always the plants fed properly and stayed medium green and happy to the end. But too much nutes ruins that flushed, faded or green.

We can definitely agree on that the best tasting bud is the ones that were growen properly to begin with. I for one have never said that those extra nutrients leave the plant. NEVER.

I have explained what i believe to others, right wrong or indifferent its my theory. Now yes i believe that the less chlorophyll present in the final product is good once again not the only thing that effects the taste and smoothness in my opinion. Any left over unused nutrients stored in the plants i believe also effect the taste and smoothness.

So if you cut the amount of nutrients during flower slowly, i believe that the extra nutrients get moved around and get used by the plant. Thats it thats all i never said that they get flushed out of the plant or they get put into the air magically. So can we move on now and stop assuming that everyone that flushes has no true reasons ot thoughts behind why they do it.

Peace and respect
Maxamus1

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

We can definitely agree on that the best tasting bud is the ones that were growen properly to begin with. I for one have never said that those extra nutrients leave the plant. NEVER.

I have explained what i believe to others, right wrong or indifferent its my theory. Now yes i believe that the less chlorophyll present in the final product is good once again not the only thing that effects the taste and smoothness in my opinion. Any left over unused nutrients stored in the plants i believe also effect the taste and smoothness.

So if you cut the amount of nutrients during flower slowly, i believe that the extra nutrients get moved around and get used by the plant. Thats it thats all i never said that they get flushed out of the plant or they get put into the air magically. So can we move on now and stop assuming that everyone that flushes has no true reasons ot thoughts behind why they do it.

Peace and respect
Maxamus1

I never accused you of anything but not reading my comment yet.

There is no such thing as flushing as it is being talked about. Production Greenhouses tend to feed water only the last week before harvesting to save money on tanks full of fertilizer. Not considered flushing anything. Water only is enough to finish the plant the way they feed them through the cycle.

But in a connisour Grow we strive to give the plants only what they need for best plant potential. If too much fertilizer is given leaching the pots with fresh water should be done be right away to eliminate root clogging elements.

Running fresh water through fertilized plants is called leaching and it is a standard practice.

I need to do it from time to time as I use well water and the extra calcium builds up.

It is not an either or scenario. You missed the point of my comment. If you see better results giving only water for the last two weeks you have already fed too much fertilizer.

Like I said. Growers have been maximizing yield with too much fertilizer for decades and then “flush” hoping it tastes good enough to sell quickly.

Enough time in the jars curing properly will eliminate any chlorophyll too. And help convert some more canabanoids. I like to cure even the loose and little buds and close bud trim for 2 months before making coconut oil for edibles. Tastes better and feels more potent.

 

[Randomestguy]

So I do mostly agree with ya, but I can't shake the idea that in the very last few days plain water would be better than nutrient feed, and as far as growweedeasy.com, I learned practically all my info from there and other than some debated subjects I would say it's actually a very good start, much better than people asking basic questions on forums like what is ph. But I was originally planning a 2 week flush (no nutrients for 2 weeks) now I think I'll only have that be a few days and I'll start working through them, any later I might have too many amber trichomes, but I think I'm right there.

 

[NanoGadget]

So I do mostly agree with ya, but I can't shake the idea that in the very last few days plain water would be better than nutrient feed, and as far as growweedeasy.com, I learned practically all my info from there and other than some debated subjects I would say it's actually a very good start, much better than people asking basic questions on forums like what is ph. But I was originally planning a 2 week flush (no nutrients for 2 weeks) now I think I'll only have that be a few days and I'll start working through them, any later I might have too many amber trichomes, but I think I'm right there.

I typically switch to plain water for the last 3-5 days if I'm bottle feeding or using dry nutes. I only give them a normal quantity of water however so it's not a flush and it's usually not even enough time for any kind of fade. I really just do it because the plant doesn't need a feeding to finish for a few days and it saves me time and money to not have to mix up that final batch. Last run was water only until i had to do a little top dressing about week 6 of flower to suppliment what was left in the soil. Having to do nothing but pour water for 90% of the grow is an absolute pleasure after running dwc for a couple years.

 

[nmibud]

I wonder if his mommy knows that he talks like that?

 

[hunter2348]

I was planning on feeding plain water for 2 weeks. Starting maybe next week?? What do you guys think?

2-3 weeks mate this is 2 wks till flush

 

[Dr. Who]

Well i thank you for being polite but as i have noticed that name calling and such comes from both sides. Now im no botanists or horticulturalest but i have done organic and hydro and i personally feel that flushing helps with smoke and taste. Now you can be mad about that or just except thats my personal choice and let me/us be.

Now i know that you're gonna say to stop pushing nonsense and that its not proven an such but trying to force your beliefes on others is no better and that is directed at all parties. This is a plant and we can grow and consume it however we wish no one has to agree with how we do it.

Peace and respect
Maxamus1

Things I learned in school....I can explain it to you BUT, I can't understand it FOR you....

For some reason. I'm beginning to think that for some of you, the wheels on your bus don't go round & round.

Feelings, Organic and hydro? Science rules, logic fails, time to study what curing really does and how......Click the link on the bottom of my post you quoted!

 

[maxamus1]

Things I learned in school....I can explain it to you BUT, I can't understand it FOR you....

For some reason. I'm beginning to think that for some of you, the wheels on your bus don't go round & round.

Feelings, Organic and hydro? Science rules, logic fails, time to study what curing really does and how......Click the link on the bottom of my post you quoted!

Same can be said to you as well, i know some of you think science is the end all be all but not all of us feel that way.

I know we are the dumb one or so you guys believe and thats fine but once again who throw the first blow? You non flushers get in such an up roar when someone dosen't conform to your ways not us. Lets let that sink in.

Peace and respect
maxamus1

 

[Dr. Who]

^^^ Butt Hurt ^^^

In reality son, I shared scientific facts.....You have to do the understanding on that....

I'm done. This is boring....The need for time outs are here.....I'll take mine first, from this thread..

 

[NanoGadget]

Let's all fling shit at each other like a bunch of fucking zoo animals instead of sharing and learning. Makes me fucking sick.

 

[ColoradoHighGrower]

Uuummmmm..... wow.

 

[Daveindiego]

And once again, you offer nothing. What a shocker.

You gonna get around to explaining the science of why "flushing" is beneficial, or are you just gonna double down on stupid???

No, I’m going to keep laughing at you for being such a bitch.

 

[Budzbuddha]

There used to be time when there was SUNDAY FUNNIES in the newspaper ....
where you would read the cartoons ...
This is better

 

[xtsho]

There used to be time when there was SUNDAY FUNNIES in the newspaper ....
where you would read the cartoons ...
This is better

Yes it is. Sometimes I feel like being a cartoon character myself. I try not to but sometimes I just can't help it. I enjoy dipping my toes in drama every now and then. Especially harmless drama.

Now everyone just take a

What did Rodney King say?

 

[Daveindiego]

Yes it is. Sometimes I feel like being a cartoon character myself. I try not to but sometimes I just can't help it. I enjoy dipping my toes in drama every now and then. Especially harmless drama.

Now everyone just take a

What did Rodney King say?

Hey, I still appreciate you turning me onto the Blu Mats.

 

[Daveindiego]

And honestly, based on this sites harsh ‘know-it-all veterans’, I don’t rely on too much help or guidance.

I use grow weed easy dot com for my growing knowledge.

And this is what it says about FLUSHING.

https://www.growweedeasy.com/flushing



Don’t let the angry Cobra Kai faggot see that, he will melt like a piss snowflake.

 

[Xs121]

People should really learn how to read a plant. Let the plant tell you if it want to get rid of excess nutrient.

IMO, there's no hard rule as such 'to flush the plant somewhere at the end of flowering' or 'not to flush at all'.

What's this debate about anyway? Excess nutrient..right? Why it is so important not to have so much excess nutrient, specifically Nitrogen? It's all about chlorophyll. Nitrogen and in combination of sulfur and magnesium, maintained the integrity of chlorophyll. Healthy chlorophyll (actually poisonous to human) content of harvested weed is hard to get rid of even in curing (harsh to smoke and hay smell). It can be done but it takes a long time to cure the product to get rid of 'excess' chlorophyll.

Having said that, everything depends on the grower understanding of fertilizer and feeding regiment. If prior to harvesting and the plant is showing sign of nitrogen deficiency (possibly Sulfur and Magnesium too) then there's no need to 'flush'. This just simply means that the chlorophyll content of the plant is starting to breakdown, which is a good thing (a bad thing if this happened in vegetative stage). On the other hand, if the plant is showing dark green leaves then you might want to stop feeding it with fertilizer, to let the plant use up what is already in the plant, not to the point of starvation but just enough for the plant to breakdown chlorophyll.

Just my thought on the matter

 

[Chunky Stool]

And honestly, based on this sites harsh ‘know-it-all veterans’, I don’t rely on too much help or guidance.

I use grow weed easy dot com for my growing knowledge.

And this is what it says about FLUSHING.

https://www.growweedeasy.com/flushing



Don’t let the angry Cobra Kai faggot see that, he will melt like a piss snowflake.

Growweedeasy.com is a site for noobs.

Hell they encourage people to defoliate their plants...

 

[Daveindiego]

People should really learn how to read a plant. Let the plant tell you if it want to get rid of excess nutrient.

IMO, there's no hard rule as such 'to flush the plant somewhere at the end of flowering' or 'not to flush at all'.

What's this debate about anyway? Excess nutrient..right? Why it is so important not to have so much excess nutrient, specifically Nitrogen? It's all about chlorophyll. Nitrogen and in combination of sulfur and magnesium, maintained the integrity of chlorophyll. Healthy chlorophyll (actually poisonous to human) content of harvested weed is hard to get rid of even in curing (harsh to smoke and hay smell). It can be done but it takes a long time to cure the product to get rid of 'excess' chlorophyll.

Having said that, everything depends on the grower understanding of fertilizer and feeding regiment. If prior to harvesting and the plant is showing sign of nitrogen deficiency (possibly Sulfur and Magnesium too) then there's no need to 'flush'. This just simply means that the chlorophyll content of the plant is starting to breakdown, which is a good thing (a bad thing if this happened in vegetative stage). On the other hand, if the plant is showing dark green leaves then you might want to stop feeding it with fertilizer, to let the plant use up what is already in the plant, not to the point of starvation but just enough for the plant to breakdown chlorophyll.

Just my thought on the matter

The other issue/myth of flushing is to get rid of the phosphorus, which if you don’t flush will lead to your bowl of weed looking like a 4th of July Sparkler.

 

[Daveindiego]

Growweedeasy.com is a site for noobs.

Hell they encourage people to defoliate their plants...

Grow weed EASY is supposed to be for noobs. Like me. Best part about the site is you don’t have to put up with angry trolls.

Is there a link for Grow weed midlevel? Or advanced?

Again, this place can be a bit discouraging to come to for hep or advice. No knocks, this place has been around for a long time, and has developed its veterans. Just like any other long term site.