Just got the shipping quotes etc .ok bro..this is from experience..i had leaf problems with lenses
i had leaf problems with reflectors..refelectors focus too much..ok enses just suck
i had no problems after removing the reflectors and found cobs work better that panels imho..not that panels aren't good
i can run them much closer ..they spread light out more....l am not alone thinking this either
I have a couple customers who experimented with Fluence Spyders. They worked great and produced some nice bud and weight but at $2300 landed, they went with Gavita DE1000 for $585 (old price) and got just as good looking bud and weight and saved huge when you factor in replacing 200 lights. LED manufacturers need to get a grip and have them no more than $1000 for 550-750W especially now when people want single light setups.Just got the shipping quotes etc .
After you factor in shipping & US dollar
I’m going to pay almost 1800 for what I want . Fuck that, I’m going to pick up another DE1000 and call is good n keep $1300 in my pocket .
I’ll look into them again in a few years when the price is more competitive with HPS .
Especially when you consider there's only a limited number of reputable chip and driver manufacturers. Most companies use a variation of the same components, and all the R&D has been done too with the exception of new technologies on the horizon. So at this point other than everyone within the industry agreeing to keep the numbers high due to the larger profit from a manufacturers point of view, there's no real reason for the prices to still be this high.I have a couple customers who experimented with Fluence Spyders. They worked great and produced some nice bud and weight but at $2300 landed, they went with Gavita DE1000 for $585 (old price) and got just as good looking bud and weight and saved huge when you factor in replacing 200 lights. LED manufacturers need to get a grip and have them no more than $1000 for 550-750W especially now when people want single light setups.
Exactly look how fast Digital ballasts came down in price from $700 to $250 in made 4 years after introduction, same with CMH. As a store especially now with big growers budgeting it looks pretty stupid when I try to tell someone wanting a tent and they want an LED that it'll be at least $1000 just for a the light if they want a system that will produce enough weed to offset their initial cost which will take up to 4 months to crop. At true 500W LED I could sell quite a few unit at $500-700. Also the price you see in most stores in the $1000-2000 units is only marked up $150-200 max on a say 500-1000W array, most of the cost is from the manufacturer.Especially when you consider there's only a limited number of reputable chip and driver manufacturers. Most companies use a variation of the same components, and all the R&D has been done too with the exception of new technologies on the horizon. So at this point other than everyone within the industry agreeing to keep the numbers high due to the larger profit from a manufacturers point of view, there's no real reason for the prices to still be this high.
It's also no longer a new technology anymore so they can't use that excuse.
Some companies offer daisy chaining. California Light Works, off the top of my head, and some offer a wireless remote for spectrum adjustments. Some higher end brands like LumiGrow offer both plus an online app you can use when away from home or to program custom light spectrums.I'm also waiting until some company comes up with a controller for them like Gavitia uses. I want them daisy chained in a system.
LumiGrow or LuniniGrow has had a controller and android box for at least 2-3 years. I have one of their panels here with a spectrum controller. This was pre wifi controller which they had for at least 2 years.Some companies offer daisy chaining. California Light Works, off the top of my head, and some offer a wireless remote for spectrum adjustments. Some higher end brands like LumiGrow offer both plus an online app you can use when away from home or to program custom light spectrums.
Yep, I missed out on that since I got mine right before they went that route.LumiGrow or LuniniGrow has had a controller and android box for at least 2-3 years. I have one of their panels here with a spectrum controller. This was pre wifi controller which they had for at least 2 years.
So I have remote controls for my 630 de cmh's. I have never had a reason to use it. Can someone explain to me the benefits?Love my Gavita controller and all it does. This is what I want for these panels. More smart than just everything on it's own.
They're more useful when you have multiple lights connected to it. Lets you dim remotely and set schedules.So I have remote controls for my 630 de cmh's. I have never had a reason to use it. Can someone explain to me the benefits?
So I should have asked why I would want to dim them? Doesn't that change the spectrum and weaken the bulbs?They're more useful when you have multiple lights connected to it. Lets you dim remotely and set schedules.
CP is taking for ever from Lower Mainland to Alberta. UPS is like 2x the price and Purolator even more.Placed an order with Canadian garden supply today . Canada post shipping wasn't an option. I forgot about the strike. Funny thing is even with the shipping costs, it all was still cheaper then I can get in person.
I will post when it arrives to show how long it takes to cross the country for $160 worth of shipping lol
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Ya it was just whatever courier option they use. Can't remember the company. I got the cheapest option at $160. The most expensive was priority overnight and it was just under $700 hahahaCP is taking for ever from Lower Mainland to Alberta. UPS is like 2x the price and Purolator even more.