what's weird is ppl like that will praise a guy in a decade then he saves a pack of seeds or worked say the fire cookies when nobody else did and then busts it out for all to benefit from his preservation, but if he tried to sell a cross of it along the way they will bash the ever living fuck out of him lololol. i just don't get why question someone about business between them and other ppl. if these guys don't want their genetics out there then don't sell seeds of em lol what can i say right, but i think most breeders are cool with it because they are all filling a need and w get it. there are some outliers ig but fuck em ...see what i did there... outliers...