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outliergenetix

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Name 10 breeders that are continually working the same lines into something stable. There's not many doing it, it takes a lot of time and effort. In the time it takes to make an ibl or bx, bodhi has dropped 20 more great crosses for people to do whatever they want with.
what's weird is ppl like that will praise a guy in a decade then he saves a pack of seeds or worked say the fire cookies when nobody else did and then busts it out for all to benefit from his preservation, but if he tried to sell a cross of it along the way they will bash the ever living fuck out of him lololol. i just don't get why question someone about business between them and other ppl. if these guys don't want their genetics out there then don't sell seeds of em lol what can i say right, but i think most breeders are cool with it because they are all filling a need and w get it. there are some outliers ig but fuck em ...see what i did there... outliers...;)
 

macsnax

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what's weird is ppl like that will praise a guy in a decade then he saves a pack of seeds or worked say the fire cookies when nobody else did and then busts it out for all to benefit from his preservation, but if he tried to sell a cross of it along the way they will bash the ever living fuck out of him lololol. i just don't get why question someone about business between them and other ppl. if these guys don't want their genetics out there then don't sell seeds of em lol what can i say right, but i think most breeders are cool with it because they are all filling a need and w get it. there are some outliers ig but fuck em ...see what i did there... outliers...;)
Lol, Yeah I think there's a big misconception of what breeders really do, due to plain not understanding genetics and how they work. But I digress, these topics usually turn into dick swinging contests that go nowhere.
 

Bodyne

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IMHO Thing with @Useful Seeds, 10 packs of fem seeds that so far every single one Ive grown out has been steller for the price of most 5 packs. Great customer service. I"d even venture to say, and Im just a nobody, whatever Usefuls method of femming his seeds, unless proprietory secret, lol, should be stickied. Never had so many good looking, viable and vigorous, fem beans. Actually inspired me to try it hilljack style on my own. Extensive library of genetics and most usually if he's F2'd something, its in great demand or a stellar cross to begin with. And crossing brother bodhi stains can only turn out good. I don't see the complaints. If DJ and Soul are gonna get mouthed like they do by the younger gen as Ive seen em do, and they arent talking about the lines they worked for the most part, neither does Breeder Stever for example, let the hybrids fly and let the guys like Useful that do what they do so well, keep on keepin on doin it. jmho. I might kick a man's dog for those apocolyptos, lol. j/k. again, jmho
 

Featherartist

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Merry Christmas to all!!! Thinking about those Christmas trees coming Monday. I'm here for the medicine. Just trying to preserve my family and find a better way to deal with our bad genetics. I'm a fifth generation nurse in my family because living is about good medicine. We are brand new to the world of cannabis. We have a very rare genetic condition that is treated with very expensive plasma products. I'm medically high maintenance to the tune of over 1.5 million this year. Cannabis has been a true God send. It has kept me out of ICU more times than I can recollect in the last 2 years. I cannot thank all the cannabis breeders enough for giving patients all the options to find a strain that works for them... I don't care what the politics are behind it. Make a living doing what you do best, and remember why you do it. I believe that in the end, we're aware all just trying to survive. Thank you Useful, and all the other breeders that are behind and mixed into where we are today.
 

torontoke

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F2ing something for preservation is quite different than pollen chucking a couple males and females.
Id just like to see breeders put in real time and effort not just chuck n see what happens.
But hey, people will buy it so who the fack cares right?
I think preservation could be viewed from many different perspectives.
Obviously a massive pheno hunt prior to breeding would be ideal however with rare discontinued strains that’s sometimes impossible.
And most of the time people are just happy to know a strain isn’t gone for good.
I’d also argue that f2’s of the originals could yield rarer even more desirable phenos then the f1’s. So as with most things in life beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
As for the distinction between chucker and breeder I find your stance curious since I know you run a lot of bodhi yourself and his stuff is all notoriously f1 poly’s.
When every “breeder” lists how many phenos they searched to find the winners then it would make sense to hold others to that standard til then it’s up to the consumer to decide what they purchase with limited info.
And since we are on the subject again here why does everyone feel the need to criticize others for doing exactly the same thing everyone else in the game does?
Do any of the “breeders” pay a cut to the person where the parent stock came from?
I doubt it and think giving credit to the source should be more then enough.
If someone doesn’t like it then they should only sell fems or get patents on their “hard work!”
Just my two cents
 

outliergenetix

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they already have a scheduled apt for my flower room. just flipped some stuff tonight to hold me over and i got some other stuff germing atm going in next, by the time they are done the xmass buds will be vegged out and rdy to flower and seed. figure it will be christmass in july this year lol, but once i got some seed stock of em i can flower out some females and have some sticky pine tree nugs to give to freinds and family next xmass. ik some ppl 'round my way gonna remember this stuff from when we were kids
 

Baqualin

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Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend. Here is a shot of some Christmas Tree Bud freebie packs. I decided to change up the labels to the colors of Christmas...lol.
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Sweet, your next JBC drop will be my last seed purchase of 2018 and last at this location, the next will be in my new place in Colorado, Yeah! Hope your dropping some Coco Trip.:bigjoint:
Baq
 

CoB_nUt

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Appears these ladies could've been taken to the mall a week ago for the new shoe/s. Still haven't topped them as I really wanna to run 'em natural first. Gonna give 'em a few days to adjust and then flip them sometime next week. No later than Sat.
DDS solo cup roots before transplant. I score the sides 4x and pull the bottom roots that have circled down and trim away <2" of roots.
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DDS new shoes
Into 1gal smart pots,couple days to adjust,get cleaned up, couple clones cut and flipped.
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Useful Seeds

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Appears these ladies could've been taken to the mall a week ago for the new shoe/s. Still haven't topped them as I really wanna to run 'em natural first. Gonna give 'em a few days to adjust and then flip them sometime next week. No later than Sat.
DDS solo cup roots before transplant. I score the sides 4x and pull the bottom roots that have circled down and trim away <2" of roots.
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DDS new shoes
Into 1gal smart pots,couple days to adjust,get cleaned up, couple clones cut and flipped.
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Thank you for the updates. Lookin forward to seeing yours in flower fer sure.
 

CoB_nUt

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Next month there will be Chem D x Chocolate Diesel fems, Chocolate Diesel s1's, Orange Cookies x Chocolate Diesel fems, and a smaller drop of Chem 91 skva x Chocolate Diesel.
Useful. SIR!!! Can you please just STOP?!
How is a guy supposed to manage? You sir get the iggy button for the next 2 birthdays. Heh, kidding aside, I'm all over those fems. I'll take a pack each. Also that chem91 skva x Choco diesal whether it's reg or fem.
That way I'll have two taste profiles collected. Your Choco mixes and Doc's purple mixes. Gonna be a nice flavor party in 2019 for my garden!
Wait, is purple a flavor?
 

outliergenetix

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Useful. SIR!!! Can you please just STOP?!
How is a guy supposed to manage? You sir get the iggy button for the next 2 birthdays. Heh, kidding aside, I'm all over those fems. I'll take a pack each. Also that chem91 skva x Choco diesal whether it's reg or fem.
That way I'll have two taste profiles collected. Your Choco mixes and Doc's purple mixes. Gonna be a nice flavor party in 2019 for my garden!
Wait, is purple a flavor?
purple is definitely a flavor
 
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