40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip

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Renfro

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Hey bud just began reading your journal, very impressed I am.
I've run 2 Nanolux 315W NC's for 5 or 6 grows now, when you say crapped out, do you mean they just quit. One of these take about 40 seconds after power on to fire but they have been fine, could it be the DE's?
Look forward to catching up here.

Get a chance stop by my roost and give it a look.

GR
Yeah they for the most part would just quit. I did have one that would just blow up a bulb every day or two so it had to go. Hard for me to trust that company but I am glad to hear you had better luck as I was looking into the 1000W DE CMH.
 

ttystikk

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Hey bud just began reading your journal, very impressed I am.
I've run 2 Nanolux 315W NC's for 5 or 6 grows now, when you say crapped out, do you mean they just quit. One of these take about 40 seconds after power on to fire but they have been fine, could it be the DE's? Damn, just passed up a batch of used Phantoms with full warranty.
Look forward to catching up here.

Get a chance stop by my roost and give it a look.

GR
Stay away from Phantom. Everyone I know has had bad luck with them.
 

gr865

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Did not see the height of your room, you can do 1000W DE's?
My hydro guy gives me some great deals and takes exchanges so I may switch to the Phantoms soon. They are not attached to the hoods are they, I like keeping my ballast outside the tent?
 

Renfro

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Did not see the height of your room, you can do 1000W DE's?
My hydro guy gives me some great deals and takes exchanges so I may switch to the Phantoms soon. They are not attached to the hoods are they, I like keeping my ballast outside the tent?
Yeah the ballast is separate. Even the nanolux 1000w de you can put an extension on. It's very difficult to change a bad ballast when it's hung over my plants. My room has 8 feet to the bottom of the floor joists and I nest my lights as far up as I can, in most cases between the floor joists to maximize how tall I can get my plants.
 

ttystikk

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Yeah the ballast is separate. Even the nanolux 1000w de you can put an extension on. It's very difficult to change a bad ballast when it's hung over my plants. My room has 8 feet to the bottom of the floor joists and I nest my lights as far up as I can, in most cases between the floor joists to maximize how tall I can get my plants.
Isn't that a fire hazard? Those fuckers get plenty hot enough to set wood on fire...
 

ttystikk

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Yeah I have a LED on order to test, gonna try it on the end of one of my rows where I currently use a vertical 400 HPS with a batwing.
Keep it warmer than you would with HID. The good LED lights are more efficient, which means they produce less heat. Plants frankly like a certain amount of heat to grow their best.
 

Renfro

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So you run both HPS and CMH? Sorry I need to catch up on your journal.
I only have one CMH right now I am testing. I had a 600 watt vertical light between two rows quit and I stuck a 315 vertical CMH there.

Looking at the DE 1000W CMH but I think I don't have enough ceiling height for that as people say it needs to be further from the canopy.
 

ttystikk

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I only have one CMH right now I am testing. I had a 600 watt vertical light between two rows quit and I stuck a 315 vertical CMH there.

Looking at the DE 1000W CMH but I think I don't have enough ceiling height for that as people say it needs to be further from the canopy.
I ran vertical 315W CMH and I liked it a lot. I'd say it's the equivalent of about 500W of HPS. The square wave ballast is the secret to performance with them.
 

Renfro

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Keep it warmer than you would with HID. The good LED lights are more efficient, which means they produce less heat. Plants frankly like a certain amount of heat to grow their best.
Yeah the HID lights make enough heat to keep the room at 90F canopy. I think I could do LED on all my row ends and be fine with the heat. Perhaps not push the AC so hard or add more lights LOL
 

gr865

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I ran vertical 315W CMH and I liked it a lot. I'd say it's the equivalent of about 500W of HPS. The square wave ballast is the secret to performance with them.
I agree, ran 400W HPS for a bit and my 315W is stronger than that. I would have to say around 500W HPS, with less heat.
Since I can rotate my plants as I did in my G13 grow with my Old SS 400W LED I am thinking of adding it in with this grow.
I would like to add more UV towards the end of my grow. I know this is a silly question, my long time friend, but do you have any thoughts on adding UV? :)
 

Renfro

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I would love to find a way to get more out of those plants. I am hoping the more even coverage of the LED on my row ends will get more yield outta those spots by making the corners more beefy.
I agree, ran 400W HPS for a bit and my 315W is stronger than that. I would have to say around 500W HPS, with less heat.
Since I can rotate my plants as I did in my G13 grow with my Old SS 400W LED I am thinking of adding it in with this grow.
I would like to add more UV towards the end of my grow. I know this is a silly question, my long time friend, but do you have any thoughts on adding UV? :)
I posted a thread a few days ago about 10k DE MH bulbs, no replies yet. I am thinking of changing my overhead lighting over for the last week or 10 days to max out resin production. Get your yield from the HPS and finish with the 10k MH, lots of UV light.
 

gr865

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I would love to find a way to get more out of those plants. I am hoping the more even coverage of the LED on my row ends will get more yield outta those spots by making the corners more beefy.

I posted a thread a few days ago about 10k DE MH bulbs, no replies yet. I am thinking of changing my overhead lighting over for the last week or 10 days to max out resin production. Get your yield from the HPS and finish with the 10k MH, lots of UV light.
So the 315W CMH will give all the UV needed/area?
 
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