HPS lights
- Thread starter Cyproz
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They won’t sell you a kit for 250? If they got the hood that cheap I don’t see why they couldn’t. Sometimes you just got to ask, as they want to make money and are well aware that you can walk out the door and order it cheap. Just tell em this is what I got to work with money wise and i want to support local business but I don’t have the money too if prices aren’t competitive. I got my new gavitas for the same price as online which is a few hundred less than msrp per fixture. I told them look I want to buy from you guys for warranty purpose and because your my favorite store, but I can’t afford to pay 800 more than it would cost me elsewhere.
Cyproz
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gotcha gotcha. yea ima go see what they can do.
theres things im pretty sure they wont beat though like tent cause im buying 5x5 apollo which is cheap brand i didnt see my local shop carry.
I will ask but i only saw the old magnetic style ballasts there which i really want a digital dimmable/switchable.
coreywebster
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Fairly reliable. They hum more when the copper wire becomes slightly less tight.
But the price of digitals is crazy cheap these days. I couldnt even give my old magnetics away.
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I used magnetic when first started if your only running one light then the lil but more power they pull won’t make a difference. If you have any kinda wiring experience they can be cheaper as they are fixable if they break unlike a digital ballast. Dimming features are nice on a 1000w but otherwise I wouldn’t see the need to dim a smaller fixture if going with a 600. Either kind of ballast will work, with ballast prices as cheap as they are now I’d go digital unless like I said your comfortable with wiring and want to be able to make the ballast last a really long time. Hell I got 2 kits from the htg clearance section and while the bulbs and hoods were junk the no name ballast still going strong, they were actually my back ups for my 630de’s which didn’t last long(cheap Chinese but only square wave de ballast could find at the time).
You could always buy used from Craigslist or eBay always deals on there. Also couple grow stores I know of have used gear. This way you could maybe pick up a back up and still end up cheaper.
Yeah tents are def cheaper online, I actually got like 3 Vivosun tents and while they aren’t near as nice as my more expensive tent they serve their purpose well.
You could always buy used from Craigslist or eBay always deals on there. Also couple grow stores I know of have used gear. This way you could maybe pick up a back up and still end up cheaper.
Yeah tents are def cheaper online, I actually got like 3 Vivosun tents and while they aren’t near as nice as my more expensive tent they serve their purpose well.
Covetsculitvars
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Grab one wi a warranty ........4-6 inch inline fan to pull air in and take air out of the grow area.....as a rule of thumb for those of us into the varietal scene because of love for the plant and not monetary gain........a 600hps kool tube will properly light up a 3'x3' x7' grow tent so with this in mind I would also rec that you grab a reflector that sits on top of the tube itself! I found these to be super helpful! I would also suggest never touching the hps bulb with your bare hands ( best to get no oils etc etc on it) and trying to keep the bulb as clean from dust etc etc as possible
Cyproz
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when hanging large hoods with vivosun tent were you worried about weight with the tent bars?
Cool tubes are great but the blockbuster hood he mentioned his store had a good price on is one the best AC reflectors made IMO and not much more than a cool tube. Also if he was running a 3x3 and shooting for quality over quantity I’d recommend an open cmh fixture as my 3x3s with cmh put out the best quality I’ve ever seen hands down, also easy to cool and only 315 watts. Kinda sad to be taking them down but built a new room and will be all de hps as I need the penetration.
Covetsculitvars
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I've got several years of gardening under both hps magnetic tech and digital tech. If I can help u op I will.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Cool-Tube-XL-Wing-Reflector-Hood-Fit-1000-600-400-250-HPS-MH-Grow-Light/112550065626?epid=675467882&hash=item1a3481b5da:g:kP8AAOSweZJaA~uT
I used a similar set up where I am with alternating tents......one on 13/11 and the other on 13/11 and so on.....cheap lights to get a great stash in 90days. Now I'm starting to covet CMH and screw in LEDs ......it's funny how we experiment as we go along.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Cool-Tube-XL-Wing-Reflector-Hood-Fit-1000-600-400-250-HPS-MH-Grow-Light/112550065626?epid=675467882&hash=item1a3481b5da:g:kP8AAOSweZJaA~uT
I used a similar set up where I am with alternating tents......one on 13/11 and the other on 13/11 and so on.....cheap lights to get a great stash in 90days. Now I'm starting to covet CMH and screw in LEDs ......it's funny how we experiment as we go along.
Covetsculitvars
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Also do yourself a favor and if u have the ability ALWAYS use a room in your house or place that gets lots of sun! I've started to utilize my sun exposure in my bedroom from 10am to 3pm on nice sunny days. I've seen the plants enjoying it as well!
There's nothing wrong with magnetic tech .....man oh man some of the comments I read here make me cringe at how Assinine and wrong they are! Mag tech are preferably Better than digi IMHO if u wanna go HID. Then again you may go through all this process and decide you want a CMH vert bulb! Who knows ....I just wanna help you dude. If I can do that great! If not I wish you the best regardless!
I run 315s in my vivosun tents so they aren’t a big ac reflector. But they seem sturdy to me. I’ve hung a small filter as well as the light at times and it was fine. I also store some random things on top (not heavy stuff) and never had an issue. They have metal corner connectors so they are stronger than some of the tents with plastic
coreywebster
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They dont weigh much compared to a large carbon filter.
lilroach
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I run both magnetics and digital. I've been running one of the mag ballast for over seven years and it keeps on chuggin'. It may be because I have more digital ballast than mags, but I've had more failures with the digital's.
The only beef I have with magnetic ballast is they don't mount on a wall, at least very well, like the digitals do......and are relatively fuckin' heavy.
The only beef I have with magnetic ballast is they don't mount on a wall, at least very well, like the digitals do......and are relatively fuckin' heavy.
chick3n2011
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I'm looking at buying an air-cooled HPS light. Am I right in thinking that they're a tube and reflector that goes over the bulb that allows for ducting to be attached?
I have a 4ft wide by 60cm deep and 1.2m high tent. Do you think it's plausible for me to use a 300w HPS light in there, if I have it air-cooled?
TLDR; do air cooled HPS lights reduce the amount of heat normally created, by a significant percentage?
Thanks in advance.
I have a 4ft wide by 60cm deep and 1.2m high tent. Do you think it's plausible for me to use a 300w HPS light in there, if I have it air-cooled?
TLDR; do air cooled HPS lights reduce the amount of heat normally created, by a significant percentage?
Thanks in advance.
Actuosity
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Which vivosun cmhs did you grab? I was looking to pick one or two up. Hows the heat and any noise from the power supply?
diggs99
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I grabbed 2 of these
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07J5WQQGJ/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_8?smid=A2PQGFJXAT8J9K&psc=1
Bought 2 philips bulbs separately
Heat is a non issue with 1 running in veg, i havent even been using an exhaust, just kept the vents opened and used oscillating fans for circulation, Temps 79-80f....tent is in my basement where ambient is usually 70-73f
Zero noise, well not enough to hear above small 6 inch fans running
I absolutely am loving them so far, about to install the 2nd light and hook up my exhaust to flower , will be nice to see how both do flowering a 3x4 footprint.
Actuosity
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Im thinking about grabbing 2 of these https://www.amazon.ca/VIVOSUN-315W-Grow-Light-Fixture/dp/B06WGLXKZJ/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_2_sspa?keywords=cmh+vivosun&qid=1553519763&s=gateway&sr=8-2-fkmrnull-spons&psc=1
or one of these
https://www.amazon.ca/SunStream-Double-Light-System-Include/dp/B075ZN6WWT/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_5?keywords=cmh+vivosun&qid=1553519763&s=gateway&sr=8-5-fkmrnull
going to be using protopia 4100k bulbs https://www.amazon.ca/CMH-Grow-Light-Bulb-Lights/dp/B06ZYQLHP9/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=cmh+bulb&qid=1553519801&s=gateway&sr=8-8
Cheaper than phillips and has better results from what I've read.
The other option is going with DIY LED, but im feeling far too lazy for that.
Actuosity
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Honestly in that short of a tent I'd go LED or CMH. 300W HPS even aircooled will make it quite toasty. 315W CMH is said to be about 600W of HPS but produces less heat typically.
chick3n2011
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I've seen 315w equating to 500w of HPS (https://www.onestopgrowshop.co.uk/t/categories/grow-lights/complete-grow-light-kits/cdm-grow-light-kits) but not 600w. You got a source buddy?
I'll do some research, thanks!
I'll do some research, thanks!