Some of the most legendary strains on the market came from accidental pollinations. On about a dozen different occasions I've taken a random 'nanner' from a prized girl in my garden and attempted to extract the pollen to make fem seeds with another prized keeper. The pollen is rarely viable but when it is the crosses are incredible.
Yep, your 100% right. But how many of those "accidents" would have been prevented if the grower had known about the nanners?
I took it as a prized girl that is getting the pollen, not one that is throwing nanners.
They are? Every time? Wish you'd have let me known this sooner.
Most of the pollen isnt viable due to the favct peeps pull it before its ripe but it is viable when left to open
I think maybe you and Big Perm should go back and read what he's saying.
I don't breed plants but I dig the process. That is the first I ever heard of nanners being wanted or expected. I mean, a strain that regularly hermies should probably be culled from the gene-pool right?
Well let's be clear, an occasional 'nanner' isn't a 'hermie'. A plant covered in 'nanners' could be an issue in a room with lots of airflow. An occasional nanner here and there at harvest is not an issue. Like I said, I'll take late 'nanners' from prized keepers and attempt to make crosses with other prized girls in the garden. It only works about 10% of the time (pollen harvested when flowers are fully dry). Why I believe it tends to give amazing results is because a keeper crossed with a keeper is likely going to result in fire AND 90%+ will be female.
Yes. I don't know how picky you are in your garden but I assume you love everything you grow. Two plants that you love crossed together is much more likely to result in progeny that you also love as opposed to using a male you know nothing about.
OK, but isn't there a better than average chance that it will each seed will be a herm though?
Dont they turn into a hermie because of stress? That makes sense seeing as what I put this plant thru, almost killed it during transplant and have been doing a good job of cooking it trying to get the light height down. It's not pretty.
Again, 'herm' is not the same thing as throwing a late 'nanner'. Semantics maybe? Every grower has seen a plant with true intersex traits - pollen sacks growing out of female flowers or hanging down low on the plant. In a rare case maybe you'd take pollen from that single random pollen sack down low and make a cross with it knowing that the progeny may also grow singular random pollen sacks, usually located down low. Those crosses are gambles and only worth the effort if the female is killer. That happens sometimes. Absolutely killer females with that one flaw. IMO, it's worth the gamble for the advanced, attentive gardener.
its muttled at best
Yes, my understanding is that they are usually stress induced. That said, it is a stress induced hermaphrodite at that point. Male and female - hermie. You can argue semantics all you want.
Let's say that your late nanner plant is an outright keeper. Not only is it the best of your seed run but it is good enough to replace another keeper in your garden. The advantage of using pollen from that late nanner keeper (assuming it's viable) is that you know she's fire whereas breeding with that male is a complete shot in the dark. Other than some stem rubs and some visual clues, that male is a wildcard.
