Why are moderates pretending to be progressive?

[Fogdog]

Own the market.
Dictate the terms.

Negotiation is better than dictating. I've seen what happens when cost is the only value managers understand. Not good for the customer or the workers.

 

[92x7000/5150]

Ex.
Drug tests are 85 to 100 a piece
Walgreens sells same test for 20 bucks
Test kits cost less than 3 bucks a piece to manufacture.
If Medicare offers same test for 30 bucks.
Labs either accept lower profit or find another way to try and make obscene profit

 

[92x7000/5150]

Negotiation is better than dictating. I've seen what happens when cost is the only value managers understand. Not good for the customer or the workers.

Own the market
Dictate the terms

Either match our price or lose customers.
You cannot get any more capitalistic than that.

 

[92x7000/5150]

Lol
Wait until weed is federally legal
Philip Morris will be selling gmo weed that tastes great and sells for 40 bucks an ounce after taxes

Oh yeah. It's will also be lab certified 60% thc

 

[Fogdog]

Ex.
Drug tests are 85 to 100 a piece
Walgreens sells same test for 20 bucks
Test kits cost less than 3 bucks a piece to manufacture.
If Medicare offers same test for 30 bucks.
Labs either accept lower profit or find another way to try and make obscene profit

We had Medicare before we had the ACA. The ACA did a better job of keeping prices down without hurting quality of service. I'm not aware of Medicare doing much to control costs. The one area that I do know of where they control costs is doctor visits for checkups and problems that don't require immediate care. At the current cost structure for providers, Primary Care Practitioners have to keep to a very tight schedule or they lose money. This puts the time of the visit at a higher priority than serving the patient. With predictably bad results.

Completely agree with the idea of public option. Completely in line with the idea of people choosing it or something else. Don't think that alone will keep prices down. Thus far, insurance companies have been awful at keeping prices down. When they do, service suffers. Also, why cut costs when their own 40% vig just goes up when costs go up.

Long term, I think we will have to nationalize the health care industry. I think the ACA is the bridge to that, not Medicare, which is more of a government health care payment plan rather than healthcare management plan.

 

[ttystikk]

Give me bernie or I'll give you tRUmp, the ramblings of a cult.

Your mantra, not mine. Cultist.

 

[Fogdog]

Lol
Wait until weed is federally legal
Philip Morris will be selling gmo weed that tastes great and sells for 40 bucks an ounce after taxes

Oh yeah. It's will also be lab certified 60% thc

They will find a way of making it more addictive too.

 

[Fogdog]

Your mantra, not mine. Cultist.

Your post that I put in my sig line says otherwise, liar.

 

[ttystikk]

Negotiation is better than dictating.

Dictating seems to have worked out fine for Republicans over the last 40 years.

 

[Fogdog]

Dictating seems to have worked out fine for Republicans over the last 40 years.

Your Authoritarian Left is adopting the same corrupt practices.

 

[ttystikk]

Your post that I put in my sig line says otherwise, liar.

Biden is an elitist clown who will spout meaningless platitudes and fool people into thinking he'll help them.

Let's listen to your explanation about how that's better.

 

[Fogdog]

Biden is an elitist clown who will spout meaningless platitudes and fool people into thinking he'll help them.

Let's listen to your explanation about how that's better.

Oh, so just bouncing off to another deflection.

Nope, won't go there.

Own your statement liar. You are always saying "give me Bernie or I'll give you Trump"

Just admit it. The we can move to another one of your lies.

 

[ttystikk]

Your Authoritarian Left is adopting the same corrupt practices.

The authoritarians in the Democratic party aren't the Progressives they're the establishment.

YOU, in other words. You use all the classic tools; ad hominems, distraction, painting the other side with the very tactics you use.

You aren't very good at it.

 

[Fogdog]

The authoritarians in the Democratic party aren't the Progressives they're the establishment.

YOU, in other words. You use all the classic tools; ad hominems, distraction, painting the other side with the very tactics you use.

You aren't very good at it.

Liar

Your Bernie Sanders health care plan forces about 100 million people out of plans they like and into Medicare whether they want it or not.

Authoritarian Leftist ttystikk.

 

[ttystikk]

Oh, so just bouncing off to another deflection.

Nope, won't go there.

Own your statement liar. You are always saying "give me Bernie or I'll give you Trump"

Just admit it. The we can move to another one of your lies.

WTF does this word salad even mean?

 

[ttystikk]

Liar

Your Bernie Sanders health care plan forces about 100 million people out of plans they like and into Medicare whether they want it or not.

Authoritarian Leftist ttystikk.

You just proved my point.

Thanks for playing!

 

[Unclebaldrick]

And this is your level of discourse.

No wonder you have no credibility.

Project away, lowlife.

 

[Fogdog]

WTF does this word salad even mean?

Just own up to it liar.

Like you said in the direct quote of yours in my sig line.

 

[Fogdog]

Project away, lowlife.

Here he is. @ttystikk the spammer. I wonder how long the mods will let him spam the site before banning him.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Just own up to it liar.

Like you said in the direct quote of yours in my sig line.

Tty lies constantly. It is a skill he uses to exploit the unfortunate. But he's a coward so it doesn't work on normal people.