Why are moderates pretending to be progressive?

[Budley Doright]

So glad you noticed.

It means there is one group of people that have the balls to sit on their hands and won't be told what to do with something they rightfully own- their personal vote.

The DNC and Media needs to come to heel this time and let the voter decide.

All that hand sitting worked out well for the country didn’t it? Your right about ownership of the vote and unlike “more chins than China” Tty you would hope people would come to realize that a nonvote is actually a vote for the second choice and typically worse candidate ...... . Owning your vote comes with responsibilities to use it appropriately. Throwing it away in a hissy fit of anger is not responsible IMO. You really don’t sound progressive by the way .

 

[92x7000/5150]

All that hand sitting worked out well for the country didn’t it? Your right about ownership of the vote and unlike “more chins than China” Tty you would hope people would come to realize that a nonvote is actually a vote for the second choice and typically worse candidate ...... . Owning your vote comes with responsibilities to use it appropriately. Throwing it away in a hissy fit of anger is not responsible IMO. You really don’t sound progressive by the way .

Hand sitting?
They actively worked to defeat Clinton AFTER Sanders lost the primary to Clinton.

If the DNC is so bad. Why the fuck is Sanders running as a Democrat?

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Hand sitting?
They actively worked to defeat Clinton AFTER Sanders lost the primary to Clinton.

If the DNC is so bad. Why the fuck is Sanders running as a Democrat?

They say that he has to because the game is so rigged.

Lol, they also say that Alabama is brimming over with Progressives who are just waiting to quit being Republicans as soon as a democratic socialist comes along. They say whatever they have to in order to get the worldview that conforms with their preconceived notions. They believe and piece of "news" that supports it, regardless of the source, and discount anything else.

They are the Trumpists who just won't openly vote for Trump but would rather see him elected than not have their candidate forced down our throats.

Very Weimar. Sad.

 

[92x7000/5150]

They say that he has to because the game is so rigged.

Lol, they also say that Alabama is brimming over with Progressives who are just waiting to quit being Republicans as soon as a democratic socialist comes along. They say whatever they have to in order to get the worldview that conforms with their preconceived notions. They believe and piece of "news" that supports it, regardless of the source, and discount anything else.

They are the Trumpists who just won't openly vote for Trump but would rather see him elected than not have their candidate forced down are throats.

Very Weimar. Sad.

Worst things to be called in order of severity in today's world
1 child molester
2 child abuser
3 socialist


Sanders would of got annihilated in 2016 in the general election

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Worst things to be called in order of severity in today's world
1 child molester
2 child abuser
3 socialist


Sanders would of got annihilated in 2016 in the general election

Doesn't a sex trafficker still get more opprobrium than a socialist does?

 

[Budley Doright]

Hand sitting?
They actively worked to defeat Clinton AFTER Sanders lost the primary to Clinton.

If the DNC is so bad. Why the fuck is Sanders running as a Democrat?

I agree lol. I do t really follow the actual nomination or how it played out down there. What I do see here (RIU) is a few who would throw away a vote due to butt hurt allowing the worst person possible to now lead. I didn’t want to vote for who I did but if I threw my vote away backing a dead horse I would feel responsible for what we have now here and I don’t but it still sucks ‍

 

[Moses Mobetta]

I agree lol. I do t really follow the actual nomination or how it played out down there. What I do see here (RIU) is a few who would throw away a vote due to butt hurt allowing the worst person possible to now lead. I didn’t want to vote for who I did but if I threw my vote away backing a dead horse I would feel responsible for what we have now here and I don’t but it still sucks ‍

When we get a fucker like trump/pence in there we all suffer, regardless of who we actually voted for. I'm with you

 

[schuylaar]

I don't know what your point is. But it appears your point is lost with your curious and intentional choice of words when referring to certain people.

you can't please everyone?

 

[92x7000/5150]

you can't please everyone?

You please no one.

 

[schuylaar]

Worst things to be called in order of severity in today's world
1 child molester
2 child abuser
3 socialist


Sanders would of got annihilated in 2016 in the general election

citation?

 

[92x7000/5150]

When we get a fucker like trump/pence in there we all suffer, regardless of who we actually voted for. I'm with you

Trumps most strategic move was having someone just as vile as him for vice president

 

[92x7000/5150]

citation?

https://www.rollitup.org/t/why-are-moderates-pretending-to-be-progressive.989436/page-14#post-14905308

 

[pabloesqobar]

you can't please everyone?

 

[Padawanbater2]

If Sanders was robbed, why did he later endorse Hillary?

Because he knew Hillary Clinton's social policies would be more closely aligned with his own

Was he hoping to get a 4th house out of it somehow?

Sanders has a house in Vermont, he and his wife bought. He has a place in DC because he's a US Senator. His wife inherited a house from her relatives, they did not buy a 3rd house.

Sanders is a millionaire. Yet he votes consistently in the Senate that millionaires should pay more in taxes.

To claim Sanders is any kind of hypocrite due to his own success is admitting you don't understand the argument, or the reasoning behind it. It's an admission on my own part to see you, RR, today, spouting the same nonsense. We've talked about this in the past. You seem to have understood it previously, yet here you are, not only defending the right wing talking point about Sanders and "all his houses!", but those that call you a peadophile, openly, actively.

Sanders isn't your enemy, man. I can't say the same for those that say you rape babies, yet you defend their reasoning because you see yourself as a defender of freedom, when those same people couldn't care less about yours..

 

[Rob Roy]

Because he knew Hillary Clinton's social policies would be more closely aligned with his own

Sanders has a house in Vermont, he and his wife bought. He has a place in DC because he's a US Senator. His wife inherited a house from her relatives, they did not buy a 3rd house.

Sanders is a millionaire. Yet he votes consistently in the Senate that millionaires should pay more in taxes.

To claim Sanders is any kind of hypocrite due to his own success is admitting you don't understand the argument, or the reasoning behind it. It's an admission on my own part to see you, RR, today, spouting the same nonsense. We've talked about this in the past. You seem to have understood it previously, yet here you are, not only defending the right wing talking point about Sanders and "all his houses!", but those that call you a peadophile, openly, actively.

Sanders isn't your enemy, man. I can't say the same for those that say you rape babies, yet you defend their reasoning because you see yourself as a defender of freedom, when those same people couldn't care less about yours..

I'm not defending people who make false accusations and I'm not a left winger or a right winger.

As you admitted, Sanders does have 3 houses.
I don't care if Bernie Sanders has 3 houses. It's none of my business.

It's ironic that Bernie claims to be a socialist, but he's a millionaire and has 3 houses. That's like a 500 pound guy in stained XXXXXXXXL sweat pants holding a box of donuts, greeting you at the door of his weight loss clinic, saying "welcome" with his mouth full of a chocolate cruller.

All Politicians are my enemy, because no politician will refrain from using initiatory force to do things to people that would be wrong if you or I did the same things. Some are worse than others and some would spend the stolen money differently, but every one of them is willing to violate people. Every one.

 

[Padawanbater2]

It's ironic that Bernie claims to be a socialist, but he's a millionaire and has 3 houses.

Sanders' voting record shows he supports higher taxes on higher earners, including himself

It would be ironic if Sandes suddenly changed his stance about higher taxes on higher earners now that he's a millionaire himself and would be subject to those same higher taxes..

Instead, he remains consistent

“When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.” -Russell Brand

 

[Rob Roy]

Sanders' voting record shows he supports higher taxes on higher earners, including himself

It would be ironic if Sandes suddenly changed his stance about higher taxes on higher earners now that he's a millionaire himself and would be subject to those same higher taxes..

Instead, he remains consistent

“When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.” -Russell Brand

So he's a socialist, who disavows capitalism, but uses capitalism to enrich his life, but feels guilty about it and in order to justify his 3 houses, is willing to say he'll pay more money to assuage his guilt?

Bernie is free to donate his houses to people RIGHT NOW, even if higher taxes aren't imposed on people right?

What's ironic is Bernie claiming to be supportive of peace and voting to fully fund the Pentagon. Not to mention he's a gun lover, as all Democrats are. This is evidenced by the mechanism used to enforce their edicts...A GUN.

If their ideas were suggestions, no gun would be needed, but since their ideas become laws...a gun is necessary to ensure people will obey these confiscatory laws. Bernie is willing to use guns to force people to adopt his ideas. That is an indisputable fact.

It's also ironic that Bernie claims to be "against big banks", yet he's consistently voted for expanding the money supply when he votes to extend the debt ceiling. That is a pro "big bank" move.

 

[schuylaar]

Because he knew Hillary Clinton's social policies would be more closely aligned with his own

Sanders has a house in Vermont, he and his wife bought. He has a place in DC because he's a US Senator. His wife inherited a house from her relatives, they did not buy a 3rd house.

Sanders is a millionaire. Yet he votes consistently in the Senate that millionaires should pay more in taxes.

To claim Sanders is any kind of hypocrite due to his own success is admitting you don't understand the argument, or the reasoning behind it. It's an admission on my own part to see you, RR, today, spouting the same nonsense. We've talked about this in the past. You seem to have understood it previously, yet here you are, not only defending the right wing talking point about Sanders and "all his houses!", but those that call you a peadophile, openly, actively.

Sanders isn't your enemy, man. I can't say the same for those that say you rape babies, yet you defend their reasoning because you see yourself as a defender of freedom, when those same people couldn't care less about yours..

lest we forget he is a millionaire in his own right through the sale of books he's written ie; his own work..no one forced people to buy his books but for some reason they want to read what he has to say since MEDIA OVERLORDS won't allow him..imagine that.

 

[schuylaar]

So he's a socialist, who disavows capitalism, but uses capitalism to enrich his life, but feels guilty about it and in order to justify his 3 houses, is willing to say he'll pay more money to assuage his guilt?

Bernie is free to donate his houses to people RIGHT NOW, even if higher taxes aren't imposed on people right?

What's ironic is Bernie claiming to be supportive of peace and voting to fully fund the Pentagon. Not to mention he's a gun lover, as all Democrats are. This is evidenced by the mechanism used to enforce their edicts. If their ideas were suggestions, no gun would not be needed, but since their ideas become laws...a gun is necessary to ensure people will obey these confiscatory laws. Bernie is willing to use guns to force people to adopt his ideas. That is an indisputable fact.

It's also ironic that Bernie claims to be "against big banks", yet he's consistently voted for expanding the money supply when he votes to extend the debt ceiling. That is a pro "big bank" move.

to make the swallow easier it's Demi Soci if you were paying attention..he's learned to not eat asparagus.

 

[Rob Roy]

lest we forget he is a millionaire in his own right through the sale of books he's written ie; his own work..no one forced people to buy his books but for some reason they want to read what he has to say since MEDIA OVERLORDS won't allow him..imagine that.

Speaking of overlords...

So you're good with not forcing people to buy Bernie's books.

Are you good with not forcing people to participate and pay for any ideas Bernie expounds on in his books?