How high can you get?

[humbo jumbo]

After all of that writing...you have not said anything scientific at all relating to HOW THC binds and what would cause differing effects. Thank you for your expose on nomenclature...I found that mildly amusing. Perhaps you could point your extreme competence at the issue of how different strains bind on different receptors??? You talk about how different strains have different effects...well can you prove how that happens being that there is only one formula for THC and it only binds to 2 recognized receptors???

Just like in nicotine ...whether you get it from a patch,cigarette,cigar, or pipe...it STILL binds to the same receptors.

It would also stand to reason that once those CB1 and CB2 receptors are saturated...you can get no higher.

I have actually never done much research on this particular 'idea'

However if you do something as simple as trying GHaze, and then hash plant you will see an incredibly obvious difference.

Also, different strains have different amounts of cannabanoids, so they are going to affect you differently (THC is just one of many cannabanoids found in cannabis)

Interestingly enough our own bodies have cannabanoid receptors (duh) but there sole purpose is to receive only these cannabanoids.

Also, you can not just judge bud on THC % as there are many more cannabanoids that will affect the intensity/affects of the smoke.


As far as the indica/sativa I was just referring to the facts. As I believe I stated.


& <3

 

[stickyhits]

any connoisseur knows there are many different highs from experience. as for the bong statement it may filter out more thc but it always seems like a more potent high with my bubbler vs a joint

 

[hom36rown]

pretty high

 

[humbo jumbo]

any connoisseur knows there are many different highs from experience. as for the bong statement it may filter out more thc but it always seems like a more potent high with my bubbler vs a joint

Yes, indeed that is true. In my experience it has made little difference.

When that is said, it is just being very technical. I doubt there are major amounts being taken away. However I can assume that the stronger potency lies more within the amount of smoke you are getting per hit. Since when you use a bong you tend to be intaking more smoke than you would a piece/joint

Kind of like by grinding your bud up your not making it more potent but you are making each hit more potent because of the available THC to burned per hit.

 

[Tanuvan]

I have actually never done much research on this particular 'idea'

However if you do something as simple as trying GHaze, and then hash plant you will see an incredibly obvious difference.

Also, different strains have different amounts of cannabanoids, so they are going to affect you differently (THC is just one of many cannabanoids found in cannabis)

Interestingly enough our own bodies have cannabanoid receptors (duh) but there sole purpose is to receive only these cannabanoids.

Also, you can not just judge bud on THC % as there are many more cannabanoids that will affect the intensity/affects of the smoke.


As far as the indica/sativa I was just referring to the facts. As I believe I stated.


& <3

All I am asking is for you to cite where you are getting this from. Even though there are many cannabanoids found in the plant...only THC is active in humans and animals...and only bind to 2 known receptors. And yes, we produce chemicals that bind there (Anandamide). So how are you getting all these different effects? If I am losing people on this...I will just stop posting now. This could be the wrong forum to ask this.

 

[humbo jumbo]

To ask what. I am at a loss.

If you can't notice the sometimes subtle sometimes major differences between certain strains than that only leads me to believe you have not been smoking long enough to get out of the 3 hits "HOLY CRAP I AM SO HIGH" stage. This is not an attack so do not get all ancy in your pantsy.

And as far as the sources half of it comes from my mind (brain) "I.E humbojumboanoids" the other half comes from MMJ co-ops which provide wide spread information for medical marijuana card holders

 

[Tanuvan]

To ask what. I am at a loss.

If you can't notice the sometimes subtle sometimes major differences between certain strains than that only leads me to believe you have not been smoking long enough to get out of the 3 hits "HOLY CRAP I AM SO HIGH" stage. This is not an attack so do not get all ancy in your pantsy.

And as far as the sources half of it comes from my mind (brain) "I.E humbojumboanoids" the other half comes from MMJ co-ops which provide wide spread information for medical marijuana card holders

I am not talking about what you or I may experience as that can vary. I am talking about THC which is the bottom line. You were disputing what I was saying...even though it is scientific...and did so with opinions that vary from individual to individual.

My info comes from biochemistry and neuroanatomy. I can cite if you really wanted.

I am essentially saying that the euphoria that is described as a high should not vary in its effects on brain chemistry from plant to plant being that it is the exact same molecule coming from different strains. You say it does, and I am asking by what scientific means does this happen?

 

[humbo jumbo]

I am not talking about what you or I may experience as that can vary. I am talking about THC which is the bottom line. You were disputing what I was saying...even though it is scientific...and did so with opinions that vary from individual to individual.

My info comes from biochemistry and neuroanatomy. I can cite if you really wanted.

I am essentially saying that the euphoria that is described as a high should not vary in its effects on brain chemistry from plant to plant being that it is the exact same molecule coming from different strains. You say it does, and I am asking by what scientific means does this happen?

Straight from Cornerstone Research:

The ratios of cannabinoids found in different strains vary.

The ratios of pharmacologically active essential oils vary between different strains as well.

This is why the effects of different strains vary.

Two strains with exactly the same ratios and amounts of cannabinoids and oils would seem identical in effect.

 

[Tanuvan]

" The ratios of pharmacologically active essential oils vary between different strains as well."

Delta-1-THC and CBN are two of the more commonly found (out of 60) psychoactive components. Even still, these compounds have a weak affinity for binding to the CB1-CB2 receptors. Delta-9-THC is still the primary acting constituent. I am at a loss as to how these other oils are working.

I will let this issue rest.

As an aside on how to get higher...Apparently raw Cacao beans might help in that category. They have enough anandamide to produce euphoria by binding to the bodies natural cannabinoid receptors.

Eaten...not smoked.

There are chemicals in chocolate that act like THC, resulting in production of dopamine, a neurotransmitter.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

havent smoked for a month of probation and ready to get baked like it was the first time i hit mary jane. wont be for a while got court on the 6th

Probation probably revoked. You're safer behind bars.

 

[napalesegrizzly23]

lmao jhonny. haha nice.
Good thread. Old but good, thx jonny for bringing it to my eyes.
My thought on this subject is that people have different reactions. ex some people feel all energetic and shit but it makes me want to sleep. some get so talkative and shit but i go all antisocial. so really it affects people differently. I know after a quarter of a certain type of weed i get used to the buzz and want something different, and when i get that "new" type of weed it gets me high again. this could be phychological..... i dont know. kind of like when that poor guy way back in highschool got smoked on oregano he "got stoned.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

lmao jhonny. haha nice.
Good thread. Old but good, thx jonny for bringing it to my eyes.
My thought on this subject is that people have different reactions. ex some people feel all energetic and shit but it makes me want to sleep. some get so talkative and shit but i go all antisocial. so really it affects people differently. I know after a quarter of a certain type of weed i get used to the buzz and want something different, and when i get that "new" type of weed it gets me high again. this could be phychological..... i dont know. kind of like when that poor guy way back in highschool got smoked on oregano he "got stoned.

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I had to bring up this old thread when I saw that photo.

For me, it comes down to strain and tolerance. I can remember smoking stuff in college that made me giggle like a schoolgirl. That was a long time ago.

I notice that when I smoke for a while without interruption, meaning every day, the effect is different. Effects don't stay with me as long.

I haven't giggled in a long time.

 

[Cynic]

Weed is Weed, a High is a High, We are all satisfied.

 

[zwh02]

SO mayb they produce different sensations, BUT can you pick out which does or is which if not told what you are smoking??? All im ssayin is youd pick the tap water ...

Not necessarily.

ALL weed is different.

You might be right to say that many would fail at a "Pepsi challenge" for marijuana, blindly noticing different strains and different highs would be tough. But that all ties in to your mood when you smoked, your environment, what you smoked from, who you were with, the amount you smoked, alignment of the planets, etc.
So it's always gonna be different.

 

[robop00p]

Last night I took one bong rip of a strain called Lavender. I had just got off work. Did not eat anything all day. I coughed my lungs up and after about 10 minutes...I started to trip. Probably the highest I have ever been. I proceeded to drive my buddy to the sub shop and tobacco store. Possibly the hardest high to drive with. I didnt know what was going on. I almost started to freak out.

 

[bikeskill]

sounds good. pass that