Big Perm
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That's not a bad approach considering what you have to work with. You could always brush up on cloning skills as practice while you are cutting them down to size.
Pineapple Chunk by Barneys
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July 13 Continuation
Cut off the 3 plants to a good size a little over a foot of growth so they should be in major shock. dropped the net down heavily but it's pushing up due to growth. not sure how the fuck i'd get 1 kola per square this way since i took existing tall plants in. i think it will be fine tbh once they start to veg more.
swapped it back to 18/6 i believe hard to reach the damn timer not sure why my dumb ass put it inside the tent instead of outside because i had the same issue last grow and i fixed it but for some reason i put it back inside the tent.
Cut off the 3 plants to a good size a little over a foot of growth so they should be in major shock. dropped the net down heavily but it's pushing up due to growth. not sure how the fuck i'd get 1 kola per square this way since i took existing tall plants in. i think it will be fine tbh once they start to veg more.
swapped it back to 18/6 i believe hard to reach the damn timer not sure why my dumb ass put it inside the tent instead of outside because i had the same issue last grow and i fixed it but for some reason i put it back inside the tent.
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i fixed it i guess. what you think? shitty job i know but hard to really start weaving pre existing tall plants as a first timer. i think it will turn out okay though once it starts to veg back. kind of gives my pineapple more of a chance to fully hit the net and do her thing.
Do you think i should flip now? or veg it out some more. if i flip imma just prune my girl up to kind of stress her out so that she isn't too far ahead when it comes to growth but if i veg her she is still going to keep growing into the net as well
im thinking just veg a little more looks like there is more gaps and my pineapple isn't really at the net yet because it is being pushed up. fill it out some more i suppose then flip right.
thanks for the help i appreciate it. yea i decided just to veg it longer i was just looking up some videos on when people flip and mine looks like shit lmfao. im not super worried though i schwazzed my last grow and it looked like this but during flowering i got some good ass buds for my skill level. I do plan to defoliate her she is getting pretty bushy already just was letting her run though to not stress her out and focus on gaining that height but now it doesn't even really matter. at least this way they all have a better chance of getting good decent sized buds.
i'll try to keep it updated but not expecting anything out of it for a few days. watering is gonna be a bitch for the back plant for sure but i got a tiny 2L watering can i use it should definetely fit.
Big Perm
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It looks great man considering the pics of about an hour ago. I could show you pics of just a few grows ago where I had to move a whole scrog from one tent to another. I've done it a few times, but this last time it was late flower. Don't feel bad. I won't post the pic of that scrog, hahaha. Was a great grow though.
I dont feel bad i mean last minute decisions that were unexpected so just working with what i got at this point plus it's my first scrog so not expecting it to be perfect. for all i know it could turn out looking good in the end just needs some time.
hopefully they bounce back quick though.
they look kinda nice from what i've seen in videos right when they flip but yea until then kinda ugly. had to fuck around with my timer shit was pissing me off since it's in the back broke off some branches XD but at least it is out of the tent where i can access it more easily now
July 14
watered his plants like a day ago and they are already dried up not sure wtf they on. doesn't seem like anything grew from the 3 plants that i can tell wasn't expecting it but would of been nice.
im gonna try and overlap the growth cause hi plants are reg so we dont even know what sex they are and i look but it's so tiny and hard for me to tell. i assume in about 2 weeks max from now they should be ready to flip. given they are stressed out. i dont expect his plants to spring back until maybe tuesday or wednesday. i will be pruning the pineapple a it gets closer to flipping just so it can have some time to bounce back. he is in dire need of some pruning though i might do that today tbh
watered his plants like a day ago and they are already dried up not sure wtf they on. doesn't seem like anything grew from the 3 plants that i can tell wasn't expecting it but would of been nice.
im gonna try and overlap the growth cause hi plants are reg so we dont even know what sex they are and i look but it's so tiny and hard for me to tell. i assume in about 2 weeks max from now they should be ready to flip. given they are stressed out. i dont expect his plants to spring back until maybe tuesday or wednesday. i will be pruning the pineapple a it gets closer to flipping just so it can have some time to bounce back. he is in dire need of some pruning though i might do that today tbh
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July 15
Surprised af that his plants already picked back up after just 2 days i mean damn that was some serious stress i put um through. Not entirely sure where im going with this grow yet i mean i want as much foliage/bud sites as i can get off his plants but at the same time my plant might take over open slots as well.
im going to try and run these until sunday and decide on sunday what exactly i will do. to me the net looks kinda full enough to flip but knowing my judgement i am wrong. im trying to take into consideration the stretch phase along with the pruning thus why i want to grow um a little bit more before i flip to compensate for that.
his plants are already in need of watering but im going to run um until tomorrow afternoon they are still damp enough to handle 1 more day.
was thinking of seeding my pineapple chunk cause i am almost out of seeds but idk yet i figure i try to grow other strains as well. i got 1 more freebie left, 1 blue widow x Mango from my old plant that was seeded on the bottom portion. and then i got i think 2 more strawberry coughs. i liked the straberries though they were fun to grow smelled nice too.
Surprised af that his plants already picked back up after just 2 days i mean damn that was some serious stress i put um through. Not entirely sure where im going with this grow yet i mean i want as much foliage/bud sites as i can get off his plants but at the same time my plant might take over open slots as well.
im going to try and run these until sunday and decide on sunday what exactly i will do. to me the net looks kinda full enough to flip but knowing my judgement i am wrong. im trying to take into consideration the stretch phase along with the pruning thus why i want to grow um a little bit more before i flip to compensate for that.
his plants are already in need of watering but im going to run um until tomorrow afternoon they are still damp enough to handle 1 more day.
was thinking of seeding my pineapple chunk cause i am almost out of seeds but idk yet i figure i try to grow other strains as well. i got 1 more freebie left, 1 blue widow x Mango from my old plant that was seeded on the bottom portion. and then i got i think 2 more strawberry coughs. i liked the straberries though they were fun to grow smelled nice too.
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Big Perm
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Pull a clone or two off of each if you can. With regulars I try to clone and flower the mother as fast as possible while the clone is setting, you can see what the sex is on its 'mother' and then toss males and veg out the females. I always hold back a clone of everything, or try to. You can always toss clones to the worms.
i honestly don't have supplies for cloning. i got clonex but thats it no soil or plugs or nothing on hand. literally need to go to the garden shop pick up more supplies in general but no car. dont want to catch an uber either cause they gonna look at me with a big ass bale of soil and be like wtf lol.
July 16
watered everything gave a full dose to my baby then half dose to my dads plants because i previously fed them last. stem on my pineapple is getting fatter and she is working her way into the net slowly so im weaving her in. was going to put off her pruning but looks like it is highly needed lots of growth under not getting any light and i see what i'd consider potential bud sites if they can hit the net any time soon.
will be pruning he of a lot of fan leaves to open her up more but so far net is getting filled in slowly. still anticipating by the end of sunday/sunday morning that i can start my flip. just waiting until then to see what really happens. weaving double sites into holes just cause fuck um thats why. gonna see how that goes.
EDIT- pruned my pineapple chunk. tried to remove as much leaves just getting little to no light that were huge, leaves blocking bud sites, removed 2 small bud sites because 1 looked like shit from the humidity all wilted/soggy looking the other was very tiny no hope for that one unless you tryna grow popcorn.
did a brisk prune job though i want to try and fill the net out more with her before i decide to full on lollipop as i do have hope for some of these bud sites they are fairly close to the net. she should bounce back in 1-2 days though i will take a pic and post it and take another just if anyone curious of growth
watered everything gave a full dose to my baby then half dose to my dads plants because i previously fed them last. stem on my pineapple is getting fatter and she is working her way into the net slowly so im weaving her in. was going to put off her pruning but looks like it is highly needed lots of growth under not getting any light and i see what i'd consider potential bud sites if they can hit the net any time soon.
will be pruning he of a lot of fan leaves to open her up more but so far net is getting filled in slowly. still anticipating by the end of sunday/sunday morning that i can start my flip. just waiting until then to see what really happens. weaving double sites into holes just cause fuck um thats why. gonna see how that goes.
EDIT- pruned my pineapple chunk. tried to remove as much leaves just getting little to no light that were huge, leaves blocking bud sites, removed 2 small bud sites because 1 looked like shit from the humidity all wilted/soggy looking the other was very tiny no hope for that one unless you tryna grow popcorn.
did a brisk prune job though i want to try and fill the net out more with her before i decide to full on lollipop as i do have hope for some of these bud sites they are fairly close to the net. she should bounce back in 1-2 days though i will take a pic and post it and take another just if anyone curious of growth
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July 16 AFTER PRUNE
Think im going to say fuck it and just start my flowering phase on Monday. think the purpose of this grow/method is to just learn.
if i so much happen to get 1 male though of the 3 not my call if my dad don't want to chop it and wants to seed it i'll be okay with seeding my pineapple chunk i do need more seeds and i do want to learn on how to produce quality seeds as well so it would be a fun experiment nothing too serious yet.
later on i will buy more pineapple chunk seeds though to flower and smoke and compare them to this one growth wise. I have an idea of what strains i will want to seed though but the other strain is always out of stock and i think the site i go to only sells it in fem
EDIT- was looking at the plants to try and sex my dads ones i think the 2 in the front are males. REALLY hard to tell though all i see is some nubs it literally could be anything but to me if i ever grew some male plants before i would assume these were it. they look like balls to me just extremely tiny so i don't want to wrongly sex them. also taking a look at the plants i kind of understand how scrogs works now the branches all have new "bud sites" forming in the open holes they are very tiny but to me it reminds me of Main Lining.
As much as i want his plants to grow more foliage within the next few days i don't think they will so i will have to flip when it looks like shit. they should pick up during the stretch though and in this sense it reminds me of when i Schwazz the plants looked bare boned but the foliage grew right back during flowering so you couldn't even tell. grew some nice ass buds too
Think im going to say fuck it and just start my flowering phase on Monday. think the purpose of this grow/method is to just learn.
if i so much happen to get 1 male though of the 3 not my call if my dad don't want to chop it and wants to seed it i'll be okay with seeding my pineapple chunk i do need more seeds and i do want to learn on how to produce quality seeds as well so it would be a fun experiment nothing too serious yet.
later on i will buy more pineapple chunk seeds though to flower and smoke and compare them to this one growth wise. I have an idea of what strains i will want to seed though but the other strain is always out of stock and i think the site i go to only sells it in fem
EDIT- was looking at the plants to try and sex my dads ones i think the 2 in the front are males. REALLY hard to tell though all i see is some nubs it literally could be anything but to me if i ever grew some male plants before i would assume these were it. they look like balls to me just extremely tiny so i don't want to wrongly sex them. also taking a look at the plants i kind of understand how scrogs works now the branches all have new "bud sites" forming in the open holes they are very tiny but to me it reminds me of Main Lining.
As much as i want his plants to grow more foliage within the next few days i don't think they will so i will have to flip when it looks like shit. they should pick up during the stretch though and in this sense it reminds me of when i Schwazz the plants looked bare boned but the foliage grew right back during flowering so you couldn't even tell. grew some nice ass buds too
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July 17
JFC came home today and the pots are dry. i LITERALLY just watered deep yesterday as usual. nothing changed well 2 things tbh. 1. fan is pointed up instead of directly at the plants it is pointing to the lights. plants do sway but very little. 2. i leave the front zipper in the middle of my tent open. before i had it open but about 1/4th of the way open.
im not saying like the top is dry only i dug fairly deep with my finger and that shit needed some watering otherwise she would of started wilting as early as tomorrow afternoon and i don't water in the morning on weekdays due to work at 6am.
couldn't do much to the plants today not enough growth to weave them but i tried to anyways but i know those tops will revert back to where they were cause it's just the tip that can go under the next hole. I watered deeply again well for my pineapple at least i gave her another gallon as usual. my dads plants i gave um only 4liters per plant. not sure why they are so damn thirsty. light schedule is the exact same 18/6 got it on a different timer though it goes off during the middle of the night and comes back on around 5am.
i see some growth differences from yesterday nothing too insane though. looks like im going to have to take a loss on this pineapple though either way i look at it since idk what sex the 3 plants are whatever i do im losing space net wise. by the time she fills up a lot of the net the 3 plants will be over grown they stretch a lot compared to her.
im still gonna wait it out until saturday and see where they are at but i have a good feeling the 2 plants in the front are males for sure.
EDIT- I AM FLIPPING TONIGHT. 5pm -5am off ( coolest hours of the day ) 12/12 schedule. going to see how it turns out. hoping for the best but expecting the worst. great learning experience for me over all so only gains from on.
JFC came home today and the pots are dry. i LITERALLY just watered deep yesterday as usual. nothing changed well 2 things tbh. 1. fan is pointed up instead of directly at the plants it is pointing to the lights. plants do sway but very little. 2. i leave the front zipper in the middle of my tent open. before i had it open but about 1/4th of the way open.
im not saying like the top is dry only i dug fairly deep with my finger and that shit needed some watering otherwise she would of started wilting as early as tomorrow afternoon and i don't water in the morning on weekdays due to work at 6am.
couldn't do much to the plants today not enough growth to weave them but i tried to anyways but i know those tops will revert back to where they were cause it's just the tip that can go under the next hole. I watered deeply again well for my pineapple at least i gave her another gallon as usual. my dads plants i gave um only 4liters per plant. not sure why they are so damn thirsty. light schedule is the exact same 18/6 got it on a different timer though it goes off during the middle of the night and comes back on around 5am.
i see some growth differences from yesterday nothing too insane though. looks like im going to have to take a loss on this pineapple though either way i look at it since idk what sex the 3 plants are whatever i do im losing space net wise. by the time she fills up a lot of the net the 3 plants will be over grown they stretch a lot compared to her.
im still gonna wait it out until saturday and see where they are at but i have a good feeling the 2 plants in the front are males for sure.
EDIT- I AM FLIPPING TONIGHT. 5pm -5am off ( coolest hours of the day ) 12/12 schedule. going to see how it turns out. hoping for the best but expecting the worst. great learning experience for me over all so only gains from on.
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July 18
looks like i got some decent growth from last nights switch. tried to sex the 3 regular plants but super hard to tell. bottom left looks like a female now or it could be a male in disguise but the balls look more pointy like a female. the top right looks more male to me and bottom right didn't really check since the other 2 were fairly small.
not 100% sure what i will do at this point. was thinking of sexing the 3 plants then revegging but im watching my pineapple to see how much she will stretch in the next 7 days and if a good bit i will be okay with some spaces empty. if she dont stretch much and i get 2 males then yea i might just reveg.
i just hope at least 1-2 of his plants are females because i do want to see the results of seeding strains personally but i don't have huge hopes they will be females. he also gets very tiny yields not even 1oz when he grows outdoors but i think it's because he doesn't water/feed as much as he should as well as keeps them in the shade mostly. when i use to grow outdoors my plants get alright yields nothing too amazing but more then 1oz for sure.
i could not weave much today the lower branches on my pineapple seem to be stretching to the net though rest same as usual growing slowly vertically. net looks like it is filling out pretty fucking good though. i look at comparison pics from today and yesterday a lot of new growth. needs some trimming done of course but im gonna hold off on trimming until saturday/sunday and i will only be trimming fan leaves blocking node sites and in moderation, nothing insane don't want to stunt them. just going to keep up with the trimming over the days in moderation.
the yellow leaves are all on his plants and due to bugs. not sure what kind i think aphids? they are black and tiny but i also see some really weird flat bugs that are white. looks like a thin piece of transulcent paper. i try to remove them if the leaves are big enough but some are so tiny and near potential bud sites that i leave um alone will try to get rid of um first thing this weekend before shit gets too bad
looks like i got some decent growth from last nights switch. tried to sex the 3 regular plants but super hard to tell. bottom left looks like a female now or it could be a male in disguise but the balls look more pointy like a female. the top right looks more male to me and bottom right didn't really check since the other 2 were fairly small.
not 100% sure what i will do at this point. was thinking of sexing the 3 plants then revegging but im watching my pineapple to see how much she will stretch in the next 7 days and if a good bit i will be okay with some spaces empty. if she dont stretch much and i get 2 males then yea i might just reveg.
i just hope at least 1-2 of his plants are females because i do want to see the results of seeding strains personally but i don't have huge hopes they will be females. he also gets very tiny yields not even 1oz when he grows outdoors but i think it's because he doesn't water/feed as much as he should as well as keeps them in the shade mostly. when i use to grow outdoors my plants get alright yields nothing too amazing but more then 1oz for sure.
i could not weave much today the lower branches on my pineapple seem to be stretching to the net though rest same as usual growing slowly vertically. net looks like it is filling out pretty fucking good though. i look at comparison pics from today and yesterday a lot of new growth. needs some trimming done of course but im gonna hold off on trimming until saturday/sunday and i will only be trimming fan leaves blocking node sites and in moderation, nothing insane don't want to stunt them. just going to keep up with the trimming over the days in moderation.
the yellow leaves are all on his plants and due to bugs. not sure what kind i think aphids? they are black and tiny but i also see some really weird flat bugs that are white. looks like a thin piece of transulcent paper. i try to remove them if the leaves are big enough but some are so tiny and near potential bud sites that i leave um alone will try to get rid of um first thing this weekend before shit gets too bad
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July 19
2nd day of actual flip. pots are not dry anymore they are pretty moist still. did some defoliation mostly to my pineapple to open up potential bud sites but thats it. removed maybe 10 fan leaves max. some of the lower bud sites maybe like 2 that were at the bottom that i would have pruned made it to the top few more bud sites forming but havent reached the net yet.
so far so good still no idea if imma remove the males and reveg or what. got to go back in probably do that tomorrow and check the sexes see if anything is showing for sure.
overall im happy with hot the net is taking shape it could be a lot worse. i see decent amount of growth per day still which is nice. i am planning to just defoliate little by little as stated im thinking maybe twice a week for now then later on lollipop and then drop it down to once a week once they start flowering. i honestly could do more but too scared to really stress them out during the stretch phase dont want to stunt um or slow the growth down too much if at all.
2nd day of actual flip. pots are not dry anymore they are pretty moist still. did some defoliation mostly to my pineapple to open up potential bud sites but thats it. removed maybe 10 fan leaves max. some of the lower bud sites maybe like 2 that were at the bottom that i would have pruned made it to the top few more bud sites forming but havent reached the net yet.
so far so good still no idea if imma remove the males and reveg or what. got to go back in probably do that tomorrow and check the sexes see if anything is showing for sure.
overall im happy with hot the net is taking shape it could be a lot worse. i see decent amount of growth per day still which is nice. i am planning to just defoliate little by little as stated im thinking maybe twice a week for now then later on lollipop and then drop it down to once a week once they start flowering. i honestly could do more but too scared to really stress them out during the stretch phase dont want to stunt um or slow the growth down too much if at all.
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July 20
started to what i actually believe is "weaving" gonna see how it turns out but i basically just bent the stems where i could via tucking under the net gave NO fucks about if another bud site was in it just to get as much exposure to bud sites as i could as well as even out the canopy. each hole has at least 1 bud site for sure for where i could. some holes got non due to the 3 extra plants and how i chopped um and some can't be bent at all so i leave those alone.
still can't really tell the sex of the 3 plants. pots are still moist at the surface so likely won't need to be watered. did another light defoliation just removed about 5 -7 fan leaves mostly on my pineapple. got to remove 1 bud site at the bottom there is no way in hell she will make it to the top imo but imma wait just to give her a chance.
overall i think net is turning out good so far despite what i had to work with and despite 3 plants are regular. idk if i will check on her again later this afternoon since she just woke up and she will put on more growth for sure but prolly wont didn't see much that i could do anyways already tucked all the branches down.
trying hard to fill out top left corner near the fan but not a ton of growth on my pineapple in that direction. a shit load of growth on her in the top left corner that is why you see a bunch of cluster fuck growth there. it's where the 2 plants are bumping uglies the most. not too much touching from the other plants and my pineapple at the bottom though but they will be starting soon. gonna try and focus more on defoliation at the top left corner. hard to tell since i dont really look at the pics or plant in person i mostly focus on bending then i hop on my computer and compare/look at plants more in detail. will be defoliating tomorrow though just for some breathing room
started to what i actually believe is "weaving" gonna see how it turns out but i basically just bent the stems where i could via tucking under the net gave NO fucks about if another bud site was in it just to get as much exposure to bud sites as i could as well as even out the canopy. each hole has at least 1 bud site for sure for where i could. some holes got non due to the 3 extra plants and how i chopped um and some can't be bent at all so i leave those alone.
still can't really tell the sex of the 3 plants. pots are still moist at the surface so likely won't need to be watered. did another light defoliation just removed about 5 -7 fan leaves mostly on my pineapple. got to remove 1 bud site at the bottom there is no way in hell she will make it to the top imo but imma wait just to give her a chance.
overall i think net is turning out good so far despite what i had to work with and despite 3 plants are regular. idk if i will check on her again later this afternoon since she just woke up and she will put on more growth for sure but prolly wont didn't see much that i could do anyways already tucked all the branches down.
trying hard to fill out top left corner near the fan but not a ton of growth on my pineapple in that direction. a shit load of growth on her in the top left corner that is why you see a bunch of cluster fuck growth there. it's where the 2 plants are bumping uglies the most. not too much touching from the other plants and my pineapple at the bottom though but they will be starting soon. gonna try and focus more on defoliation at the top left corner. hard to tell since i dont really look at the pics or plant in person i mostly focus on bending then i hop on my computer and compare/look at plants more in detail. will be defoliating tomorrow though just for some breathing room
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