Don't listen to those trying to blame the light, nutrients, ect.. It's the genetics.
Bodhi and Karma have some potent plants in their packs.
Weak weed every time?
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Bodhi and Karma have some potent plants in their packs.
kingromano
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yeah i look your photos i find it pretty nice ... and the plant dont look stressed/ deficients
i also heard bodhi seeds hold nice phenotypes
Roger A. Shrubber
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dude, genetics have never been as important as you're going on about...you do have to have the potential within the plants, but you can give a schmuck who doesn't know fuck all the best genetics on the planet and they'll produce shit with it...and you can give me a mediocre seed, and i can bring out the best it can be...not saying im magic and can work miracles, but the environment has a much larger impact than you seem to think, as does the growers ability. perhaps he has been growing some strains that aren't quite as potent as others that are available, but all of them being bunk, every time? that's not genetics, it's some other variable
DonnyTinyHands
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Some people just need to justify their overspend to themselves constantly. If you want to see the extreme example go check out some audiophiles. But see it all the time on here with Chinese grow lights as well as genetics.
The super high end stuff in all 3 cases is well past the point of diminishing returns and is without a doubt a terrible value. But they spent the money and instead of just being happy with the truth that what they bought is infact top notch but it's really only a couple percent better than what could have been had for half or less the price, instead you see them fanboying about how amazing what they paid a premium for and how the regular stuff is actually complete garbage. Their not suckers who overpaid, they had to, the regular stuff is trash.. they will repeat this mantra until they believe it.
Top shelf genetics are better than just rando seeds, but rando seeds will not produce bunk weak buds 20 runs in a row. Most rando genetics out there seem to be pretty damn decent imo.
Thundercat
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It’s not just you man. Really reading trichomes properly is tough. I constantly see people confusing clear and cloudy trichomes. It’s very easy for the clear bulbous trichome heads to magnify the cloudy opaqueness of the trichome stalk. Thus people think their plant is covered in cloudy trichomes weeks before it really would be. I stopped using a scope on trichomes years ago. I closely watch all the signs the plant gives me and just harvest when they are actually done.
Also don’t be afraid of amber trichomes. There is waaay to much emphasis put on the dragrading of THC in amber trichomes. Yes it starts to break down as the trichomes go amber, but it’s a slow process. It’s not something that happens over night. It takes lots of ignoring your plant for it to get overly matured to a point of significant THC lose. In the mean time while some of the earliest trichomes go amber the rest are just finally getting properly ripened.
sourdieselyumyum
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yea definitely not all genetics
ZeeeDoc
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Your smoking bud after 5 days dry and your wondering why your not smoking the High-grade? Dude hang the plant whole at 15 degree's temps 60% humidity, gentle air flow, will take about 10-14 days to dry. Then assess your buds then and I guarantee you there will be a mass improvement. Curing is necessary tho if you want next level type buds.
kingromano
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yeah at 5 days its disgusting
full of chloro
if i'm very hungry and deperate ill smoke at 7 days .. but its too early
i like to have them dry in 15 days no more
full of chloro
if i'm very hungry and deperate ill smoke at 7 days .. but its too early
i like to have them dry in 15 days no more
Roger A. Shrubber
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that is indeed too short a time. your hang time should be at least 5 days, then two weeks in the jars before they even start to smell or taste like they should, and the more you can add to that time, the better. i'm not convinced that potency improves with curing, but taste and aroma definitely do.
Older Dude
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Make sure your trichs are turning amber 15% or so, maybe your too early.
sourdieselyumyum
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60 degrees?
kingromano
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yeah 60f (18c) and 50 to 60% is good
I've seen the most shittiest looking plant, abandoned, left for dead, growing under pure shade Knock out a "professional" smoker, so dont tell me about Genetics not being the most important thing. Maybe this guy's tolerance finally cought up with him and now feels like everything is not up to his par.
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Roger A. Shrubber
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i will tell you about it, because apparently you're still fixated on this one thing...which is incorrect...
coreywebster
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OP ive grown a lot of the strains you mentioned and though the flavours were not exactly punching you in the face the potency was there.
I tend to harvest late rather and never early. Never count days, just read the plant and when the swells happened and the recession I check trichs.
If the high is short lived its likely chopped too early.
I considered high temps, but looking at your pics you have 81 degrees with a black thermometer right under your light, I doubt its actually that warm in real life.
I tend to harvest late rather and never early. Never count days, just read the plant and when the swells happened and the recession I check trichs.
If the high is short lived its likely chopped too early.
I considered high temps, but looking at your pics you have 81 degrees with a black thermometer right under your light, I doubt its actually that warm in real life.
I don't think there is a real value from going from one extreme to another extreme, feeding them too much then not at all during their final weeks. As long as you don't overfeed them there is no need to starve them in my opinion.
Wastei
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Develop some patience and don't go by given numbers. Learn to read the plants and chop them when they are ripened. I've grown clones from my friends who they say were "worthless" and "leafy", they all turned out to be potent and no leafy mess.
Not saying you grow leafy plants but I think It all has to do with growing experience in my opinion. Some strains are really hard to work with.
Not saying you grow leafy plants but I think It all has to do with growing experience in my opinion. Some strains are really hard to work with.
323cheezy
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Simple case of outgrowing your room in my opinion. Sometimes we get too ambitious. Keep your grown smaller and learn to use s trellis, then lollipop your girls . It’s always been quality over quantity for me ...in a sense quality is compromised with abundance of quantity. Stakes really?