Lockdowns work.
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Grandpapy
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Chances are.
I would like to take this time to thank everybody that has made this day possible for me. Thank You!
(if you want really top shelf, just treat one of the plants in your tent for mites)
rkymtnman
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fun factoid:
Sweden's national dish is not Swedish meatballs. It's a Cheesburger (smoked eel topping optional)
Fogdog
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I'll take a Swedish Cheeseburger. Hold the beef patty and cheese, please add the optional smoked eel topping. Death cult literature will be reserved as backup in case of TP shortage.
DIY-HP-LED
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abandonconflict
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Nobody is saying that you have to go out though.
abandonconflict
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Graphed nationally, deaths per capita, with both outbreaks starting at the same point and actual infection rates unknown is a great way to ignore the rationale of the Swedish strategy. That's is the very definition of science denial.
Swedish Ambassador Says Stockholm Expected To Reach 'Herd Immunity' In May
Sweden has employed a controversial coronavirus response strategy of imposing only limited restrictions. The country's ambassador to the U.S. says the approach is having success.
www.npr.org
Fogdog
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Oh, hi, Death Cult, have you talked to Duterte about your theory?Graphed nationally, deaths per capita, with both outbreaks starting at the same point and actual infection rates unknown is a great way to ignore the rationale of the Swedish strategy. That's is the very definition of science denial.
Swedish Ambassador Says Stockholm Expected To Reach 'Herd Immunity' In May
Sweden has employed a controversial coronavirus response strategy of imposing only limited restrictions. The country's ambassador to the U.S. says the approach is having success.
abandonconflict
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I gave you a like, since you're clearly more interested in that than debating.
Fogdog
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Here in Oregon, however, the lockdown has done a pretty good job. We have this news to report:
Pace of new COVID-19 cases in Oregon continues to slow
www.gazettetimes.com
Oregon reported no COVID-19 fatalities on Sunday, and the state’s daily death toll remained at 109.
The pace of the novel coronavirus pandemic is slowing down, according to state figures on the caseload. Oregon added 369 cases of COVID-19 in the last week for an increase of 16 percent.
That’s the lowest number of new weekly cases in nearly a month, and the rate of transmission has declined every week since March 29.
As the title of this thread states, lockdowns work. There is no need to debate this, the debate is over.
Pace of new COVID-19 cases in Oregon continues to slow
Pace of new COVID-19 cases in Oregon continues to slow
Oregon reported no COVID-19 fatalities on Sunday, and the state’s daily death toll remained at 109.
Oregon reported no COVID-19 fatalities on Sunday, and the state’s daily death toll remained at 109.
The pace of the novel coronavirus pandemic is slowing down, according to state figures on the caseload. Oregon added 369 cases of COVID-19 in the last week for an increase of 16 percent.
That’s the lowest number of new weekly cases in nearly a month, and the rate of transmission has declined every week since March 29.
As the title of this thread states, lockdowns work. There is no need to debate this, the debate is over.
abandonconflict
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Bullshit. It's a subjective puff piece. South Dakota never had a lockdown and a similar number of cases and despite its smaller population, it had an outbreak cluster comparable in scope to what one would see in community spread in a city like Portland. Both states have sparsely populated rural areas and so they are quite comparable. Both states saw community spread at around the same time period. Nonetheless, South Dakota has seen far fewer deaths despite having an inferior healthcare system, less wealth and even with its smaller overall state population, has had fewer deaths even per capita. Nor can this be attributed to testing dispparities as Oregon has conducted far more total tests.Here in Oregon, however, the lockdown has done a pretty good job. We have this news to report:
Pace of new COVID-19 cases in Oregon continues to slow
Pace of new COVID-19 cases in Oregon continues to slow
Oregon reported no COVID-19 fatalities on Sunday, and the state’s daily death toll remained at 109.
Oregon reported no COVID-19 fatalities on Sunday, and the state’s daily death toll remained at 109.
The pace of the novel coronavirus pandemic is slowing down, according to state figures on the caseload. Oregon added 369 cases of COVID-19 in the last week for an increase of 16 percent.
That’s the lowest number of new weekly cases in nearly a month, and the rate of transmission has declined every week since March 29.
As the title of this thread states, lockdowns work. There is no need to debate this, the debate is over.
Considering that South Dakota has achieved this without lockdowns, they need not worry about a coming spike in cases due to an easing of such measures.
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
Fogdog
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I'm sorry that you didn't get any satisfaction from people dying in my state. Actually not sorry. Go sell your death cult's plans to Duterte. We won't cooperate.Bullshit. It's a subjective puff piece. South Dakota never had a lockdown and a similar number of cases and despite its smaller population, it had an outbreak cluster comparable in scope to what one would see in community spread in a city like Portland. Both states have sparsely populated rural areas and so they are quite comparable. Both states saw community spread at around the same time period. Nonetheless, South Dakota has seen far fewer deaths despite having an inferior healthcare system, less wealth and even with its smaller overall state population, has had fewer deaths even per capita. Nor can this be attributed to testing dispparities as Oregon has conducted far more total tests.
Considering that South Dakota has achieved this without lockdowns, they need not worry about a coming spike in cases due to an easing of such measures.
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United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.info
PadawanWarrior
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You've obviously never been to SD. There are barely any people there cause not many people want to live there. It's great for fishing and hunting though.Bullshit. It's a subjective puff piece. South Dakota never had a lockdown and a similar number of cases and despite its smaller population, it had an outbreak cluster comparable in scope to what one would see in community spread in a city like Portland. Both states have sparsely populated rural areas and so they are quite comparable. Both states saw community spread at around the same time period. Nonetheless, South Dakota has seen far fewer deaths despite having an inferior healthcare system, less wealth and even with its smaller overall state population, has had fewer deaths even per capita. Nor can this be attributed to testing dispparities as Oregon has conducted far more total tests.
Considering that South Dakota has achieved this without lockdowns, they need not worry about a coming spike in cases due to an easing of such measures.
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United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
And it's still not immuned. Check out the meat plant shit there. You guys love the New York Times.
South Dakota Meat Plant Is Now Country’s Biggest Coronavirus Hot Spot (Published 2020)
Refugees from around the world worked at the Smithfield pork factory in Sioux Falls. Now they face mounting illness and the sudden loss of their jobs.
Fogdog
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People who endorse opening this economy up without adequate containment measures in place are calling sacrifice of human lives for their consumerism. The OP was written by a person who is employed in the international tourism industry. Small wonder that from his safe seat in the Phillippines, he's pushing for the US to "just get it over with". No matter if that means millions more dead.You've obviously never been to SD. There are barely any people there cause not many people want to live there. It's great for fishing and hunting though.
And it's still not immuned. Check out the meat plant shit there. You guys love the New York Times.
South Dakota Meat Plant Is Now Country’s Biggest Coronavirus Hot Spot (Published 2020)
Refugees from around the world worked at the Smithfield pork factory in Sioux Falls. Now they face mounting illness and the sudden loss of their jobs.www.nytimes.com
abandonconflict
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Bullshit. You're appealing to emotion. That's not my position at all and you know it. Yesterday, after I eviscerated your weak arguments, you claimed I was bullying you and ran away crying, when I was arguing alone against a crowd of trolls with weaponized likes and memes and shitposting all on your side. The fact is, the evidence is simply not on your side and I have patiently and calmly rebutted every fallacy you've composed. The lockdowns have failed utterly to protect the most vulnerable.
Serosurveys have been showing that the virus is far more widespread than the number of confirmed cases would have us believe. The WHO has reported, already more than a fortnight ago, that 2% - 3% of the world is estimated to have antibodies. It's been two weeks since the samples were taken showing New York at over 25% infected. A German serosurvey from 3 weeks ago showed 15%. Sweden is claiming to be less than a month from herd immunity.
With herd immunity coming so rapidly and a vaccine so far away, it is pure folly to think that we can forestall the spread of this pandemic until there is a vaccine when there has never been a vaccine in history developed in under four years. Worse yet, if we continue to try, it will drive up the rate of death because we'll be contending with a famine AND a pandemic.
Top this with the fact that those dying from the disease need not be exposed in order to let the workforce continue to run society. By and large, those vulnerable are the elderly and comorbid and they are not part of the work force. People need to fucking eat.
abandonconflict
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States are opening though, whether you like it or not. You don't have to go outside though. oregon will open long before there is a vaccine or herd immunity as well, mark my words.
PadawanWarrior
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Dude if you can't get a girlfriend, there's always the pocket pussy. Nothing to be ashamed of.
abandonconflict
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Dude, if you can't get a like by trolling me, in a thread that was made specifically to troll me, where my arguments are being met with memes, shitposting and trolling, then your sockpuppet has already failed.
jimihendrix1
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Dr Fauci says lockdowns have slowed the rate of spread of the virus, and said we would have had even more success if we started it earlier. I know you said you dont care what he says, but he states the facts, and thats all I care about. Fauci has all the info. Fauci says lockdown HAS slowed the progression of the virus... He also says we need way more testing that is currently being done. tRUmp says theres no need for it..
You give ZERO factual rebuttal vs Fauci. Only you dont care what he says. Thats not science. Fauci only believes in science.
Ill believe what Fauci says every time. Especially from anyone on a weed forum, and is also not an Immunologist expert, or a Virologist. Especially with an man with 53 years of experience. He been doing this longer than many here have even been alive.
NONE of the states so far have reached tRUmps own administration guidelines for reopening, yet tRUmp still wants to open shit up, regardless of his own administrations recommendations.
Many meat packing companies are also not reopening regardless of tRUmps executive order.
tRUmp also wants to order people back to work, and also doesnt want the companies held liable for deaths, or not suppling adequate PPE, and distancing space in the work area.
He just wants to order people around, and expose them to potential death, and not ne held accountable..
You give ZERO factual rebuttal vs Fauci. Only you dont care what he says. Thats not science. Fauci only believes in science.
Ill believe what Fauci says every time. Especially from anyone on a weed forum, and is also not an Immunologist expert, or a Virologist. Especially with an man with 53 years of experience. He been doing this longer than many here have even been alive.
NONE of the states so far have reached tRUmps own administration guidelines for reopening, yet tRUmp still wants to open shit up, regardless of his own administrations recommendations.
Many meat packing companies are also not reopening regardless of tRUmps executive order.
tRUmp also wants to order people back to work, and also doesnt want the companies held liable for deaths, or not suppling adequate PPE, and distancing space in the work area.
He just wants to order people around, and expose them to potential death, and not ne held accountable..
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