Lockdowns work.

[DIY-HP-LED]

https://www.theroot.com/notracists-be-like-the-top-10-phrases-used-by-peop-1819142064. Which one is your post? number 5: "Not all white people" or number 10: "Why does it have to be about race?"

Yeah, the guy who said that "black race based slavery in the US is the same as supporting Trump" is somebody to listen to.

What kind of fucking ally do you think you are, outsider? Stop whitesplaining racism. Stop canadasplaining Trump. You have not a single clue about what's going on here. You have serious issues to deal with yourself. From the things you've said, Canadians (if you are one) are decades behind the US in terms of understanding the depths of their white supremacist beliefs. The people of the US are leagues ahead of you.

If you and the other three so-called "Canadians" represent your kind, then it's a very good thing that Canada's population is only a tenth of the US and land mass about the same. Your facade of politeness would be blown away if you actually saw each other. Here is a tip from somebody who lives in the US to his little brothers to the north: When you don't know what you are talking about, shut up and listen.

Shit, you are deliberately and maliciously misinterpreting and metaphorical insult to white racist. Still gaslighting as always

It is an international forum and I have an opinion and a view, it is pretty much aligned with yours, you need a lot of conditions to be just right to be happy, a formula for personal misery. Right now focus on Trump and the republicans.

BTW I know a bit about how humans operate and that includes me and you as well as others, self delusion is natural and normal, but I try to keep it to a minimum.

 

[Fogdog]

Shit, you are deliberately and maliciously misinterpreting and metaphorical insult to white racist. Still gaslighting as always

It is an international forum and I have an opinion and a view, it is pretty much aligned with yours, you need a lot of conditions to be just right to be happy, a formula for personal misery. Right now focus on Trump and the republicans.

BTW I know a bit about how humans operate and that includes me and you as well as others, self delusion is natural and normal, but I try to keep it to a minimum.

You are the one who said it. You also said that racism based upon a person's skin color was like religious bias. It's not. In fact, just saying that shows how little you know on the subject.

You angrily reject the facts contained in your own words. It's time to do your meds (ahem, "meditation"), calm down and self reflect. Isn't that what you recommend to others? So, calm down Canadian White Man, shut the fuck up and start listening to other. You can learn a lot if you listen. Same goes with all my little brothers to the north who are stuck in suspended development.

Just for the record, I'll repeat your words back at you:

I was trying to give some context, slavery was very bad and I said as much, but there are better ways of exploiting human beings. Racism exists on a spectrum of bigotry and until recent times Irish and catholics were treated like shit by WASPs and denied all kinds of opportunity, tammy hall was the result. I can discuss this things frankly and honestly, if black Americans want reparations, which I believe the should get, if they went for slavery reparations, legal arguments could be mounted, besides many whites would buy the argument about paying in blood because there is validity to it. Everything that happened after manumation and the changes in the constitution are up for grabs and easier meat, the state has a legal obligation to ensure the rights of all citizens and they failed for over a century and a half. Reparations are appropriate for these circumstances legally for sure, but discussing it right now would be a bad idea and not pragmatic, get rid of trump. Reparations are an American issue, for Americans to decide, I won't be involved when the issue arises.

No, race based chattel slavery in the US was and is nothing like religious bias against Catholics. What your kind did to First People in their lands to the north of the US is nothing like religious persecution either. It was genocide.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

You are the one who said it. You also said that racism based upon a person's skin color was like religious bias. It's not. In fact, just saying that shows how little you know on the subject.

You angrily reject the facts contained in your own words. It's time to do your meds (ahem, "meditation"), calm down and self reflect. Isn't that what you recommend to others? So, calm down Canadian White Man, shut the fuck up and start listening to other. You can learn a lot if you listen. Same goes with all my little brothers to the north who are stuck in suspended development.

Just for the record, I'll repeat your words back at you:



No, race based chattel slavery in the US was and is nothing like religious bias against Catholics. What your kind did to First People in their lands to the north of the US is nothing like religious persecution either. It was genocide.

Humans will attack the "other" and form groups (tribes) when threatened or they perceive it that way. Europeans and others had to resort to uniforms to instill this deep sense of tribalism and in combat they are more important than skin color, as has been repeatedly proven. Mixed race sports team work well together and also have no problem with group cohesion. Black cops stand around and even participate in beating the shit out of black people and supporting or staying silent about racist white cops. Pardon the pun, it's not strictly black or white, religion for instance often rears it's ugly head and race often came second or didn't matter at all. However in the contemporary USA it is all about race, or I should say racism.

Sorry for socisplaining it to you.

 

[hillbill]

They’re Coming To Take Me Away Ha Ha Hee Hee!
Wiener Dogs assault!

 

[hillbill]

Won’t get into the Walmart's without a mask! Not today!
Just picked up groceries, like a NASCAR pit stop, fuel only!

 

[Fogdog]

Humans will attack the "other" and form groups (tribes) when threatened or they perceive it that way. Europeans and others had to resort to uniforms to instill this deep sense of tribalism and in combat they are more important than skin color, as has been repeatedly proven. Mixed race sports team work well together and also have no problem with group cohesion. Black cops stand around and even participate in beating the shit out of black people and supporting or staying silent about racist white cops. Pardon the pun, it's not strictly black or white, religion for instance often rears it's ugly head and race often came second or didn't matter at all. However in the contemporary USA it is all about race, or I should say racism.

Sorry for socisplaining it to you.

Tell us more about how being a black slave in the early 1800's was like being a white sailor or Catholics.

"bbbut black cops are beating people for driving while black, so I'm right about racism".

lulz. I can't make this up.

You white Canadian men (if that's who you are) have been exposed for their racism. Didn't somebody (a Canadian) say that your neck of the woods is the Mississippi of Canada? I wasn't sure then but am beginning to believe it.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Tell us more about how being a black slave in the early 1800's was like being a white sailor or Catholics.

"bbbut black cops are beating people for driving while black, so I'm right about racism".

lulz. I can't make this up.

You white Canadian men (if that's who you are) have been exposed for their racism. Didn't somebody (a Canadian) say that your neck of the woods is the Mississippi of Canada? I wasn't sure then but am beginning to believe it.

Leave it alone and focus on your enemies and not your allies who have historical perspective and a broader view of humanity than average. Humans work the same all over and we are both human and so is everybody else, we are a process individually and part of one socially. The master servant laws in place in 19th century England were just that master slave/servant, people rose up against it and a made better world.

BLM represents real problems that have featured for too long and not just in America, as evidenced by the global protests, some of the issues were local. It also represents hope along with the power of African American and other minority populations in the democratic party, the parties are polarised and this can be a good thing too, it's on the table now and they have a loser as a leader. My opinion mind you, but a reasonable one.

 

[Fogdog]

Leave it alone and focus on your enemies and not your allies who have historical perspective and a broader view of humanity than average. Humans work the same all over and we are both human and so is everybody else, we are a process individually and part of one socially. The master servant laws in place in 19th century England were just that master slave/servant, people rose up against it and a made better world.

BLM represents real problems that have featured for too long and not just in America, as evidenced by the global protests, some of the issues were local. It also represents hope along with the power of African American and other minority populations in the democratic party, the parties are polarised and this can be a good thing too, it's on the table now and they have a loser as a leader. My opinion mind you, but a reasonable one.

This whole thing started with my calling your ignorant posts out for being ignorant. When you stop posting shit you know nothing about, then will be the time to leave it alone.

What is Canada doing to address its own racist history? What do your first people say about that? Unfortunately, I don't think you are qualified to comment on issues in your own back yard.

 

[Budley Doright]

You are the one who said it. You also said that racism based upon a person's skin color was like religious bias. It's not. In fact, just saying that shows how little you know on the subject.

You angrily reject the facts contained in your own words. It's time to do your meds (ahem, "meditation"), calm down and self reflect. Isn't that what you recommend to others? So, calm down Canadian White Man, shut the fuck up and start listening to other. You can learn a lot if you listen. Same goes with all my little brothers to the north who are stuck in suspended development.

Just for the record, I'll repeat your words back at you:



No, race based chattel slavery in the US was and is nothing like religious bias against Catholics. What your kind did to First People in their lands to the north of the US is nothing like religious persecution either. It was genocide.

I gave a like for the last part because it’s spot on. The other stuff well ya ok their from Canada but does the Canada thing matter? Actually economically your goverment has more effect on us than ours. Being Canadian is irrelevant in these discussions. Honestly DIY is probably more aware of what is happening than 35% (fuck I hope it’s lower lol) of your population. He may not be right but yes aware and yes from reading. Perhaps that’s not a bad thing, seems a few of the people down there could benefit from that. Debate the statement but bringing Canada into it ..... not getting that.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

This whole thing started with my calling your ignorant posts out for being ignorant. When you stop posting shit you know nothing about, then will be the time to leave it alone.

What is Canada doing to address its own racist history? What do your first people say about that? Unfortunately, I don't think you are qualified to comment on issues in your own back yard.

Well when I was a kid there were payments for black kids to graduate and the first black guy I seen on TV as a young Kid was the president of the local steel workers union, my dad had black friends etc. There was a traditional black community in "Afroville" on the harbor front in Halifax, relocated to preston, but I figure the land had become valuable and someone powerful wanted it. There was a ghetto of sorts in whitney pier in Sydney at one time, but then again my home town was kinda split between the protest and catholic ends of town, even when I was a kid and there was a parochial school system.. Then there is the issue of anti french bigotry and the counter hatred etc.

We have our problems and 33% of each nation on earth are assholes. Right now America is on a tragic course with a Donald Trump at the helm because of it. It's real stark for them and only one reason to support and vote for him, he left them naked in the bright light of day on open ground.

 

[Budley Doright]

the charity thing was very political- we are never privy to everything. i trust your PM- you should too..his intentions are pure and just.

You do realize he apologized once again? That’s 3 times now that he has apologized. How many do you get? Oh right I forgot....sunny ways all good!

 

[Budley Doright]

i agree, but there are those of us who are trying to right the wrong..the continual attack..?

From a few of the statements you’ve made I think you may be confused about how to right the wrong.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

No, race based chattel slavery in the US was and is nothing like religious bias against Catholics. What your kind did to First People in their lands to the north of the US is nothing like religious persecution either. It was genocide.

You are correct, the "Your Kind" included many, including black slave merchants in Africa, everybody can be an asshole, all colors and creeds accepted, no one is special.

 

[Budley Doright]

Well when I was a kid there were payments for black kids to graduate and the first black guy I seen on TV as a young Kid was the president of the local steel workers union, my dad had black friends etc. There was a traditional black community in "Afroville" on the harbor front in Halifax, relocated to preston, but I figure the land had become valuable and someone powerful wanted it. There was a ghetto of sorts in whitney pier in Sydney at one time, but then again my home town was kinda split between the protest and catholic ends of town, even when I was a kid and there was a parochial school system.. Then there is the issue of anti french bigotry and the counter hatred etc.

We have our problems and 33% of each nation on earth are assholes. Right now America is on a tragic course with a Donald Trump at the helm because of it. It's real stark for them and only one reason to support and vote for him, he left them naked in the bright light of day on open ground.

Nope not even close. Stop trying to convince yourself you know anything about being anything but white. You don’t and I don’t.

 

[Budley Doright]

I gave a like for the last part because it’s spot on. The other stuff well ya ok their from Canada but does the Canada thing matter? Actually economically your goverment has more effect on us than ours. Being Canadian is irrelevant in these discussions. Honestly DIY is probably more aware of what is happening than 35% (fuck I hope it’s lower lol) of your population. He may not be right but yes aware and yes from reading. Perhaps that’s not a bad thing, seems a few of the people down there could benefit from that. Debate the statement but bringing Canada into it ..... not getting that.

Oh right their Russians .......... could be, all I’ve ever met are Russian strippers ..... they seemed nice

 

[schuylaar]

You do realize he apologized once again? That’s 3 times now that he has apologized. How many do you get? Oh right I forgot....sunny ways all good!

yes, i do..so okay, now that i know more, i'm not happy either. Maggie shouldn't have made money off a charity you'll have to hold him to task next time around..can he run again?

the Lavalin issue would have hurt Canada and it's peoples for a decade (9k employees) though..sometimes you choose the devil you know for the greater good.

 

[schuylaar]

Nope not even close. Stop trying to convince yourself you know anything about being anything but white. You don’t and I don’t.

but he wants to learn and this is how..everyone tells white people how wrong they are but in a passive aggressive manner because you (metaphorically) won't help correct it; speak up to those who want to help, so we can influence others.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Nope not even close. Stop trying to convince yourself you know anything about being anything but white. You don’t and I don’t.

I agree, but I don't like being gaslighted as a racist or subjected to a purity test or checklist, no one does. It's about what is in your heart Budley, not checklists. You might as well assign a 2 point score to every question on foggies checklist, just like Hare's PCR-L 3 for psychopathy. Slavery was wrong it was never right, anybody who would own another human being is a piece of shit and has been for a very long time in most civilized places. Americans carry their history like a cross upon their backs along with all the other bullshit and baggage, other places are moving on, we live in one. America has been in social stasis for years, change is coming though and a better day for all.

 

[Budley Doright]

but he wants to learn and this is how..everyone tells white people how wrong they are but in a passive aggressive manner because you (metaphorically) won't help correct it; speak up to those who want to help, so we can influence others.

How in the hell can I make him understand what it’s like to be a person of colour, I can’t and DIY needs to understand that but keeps trying to prove he does. Yes your right, change the bullshit. I went to my first rally 3 weeks ago to protest the treatment of blacks and it was, for an old 60 year old white guy, pretty humbling. But I also fail to see how you are helping in anyway ...... do you think stereotyping is a way to fight racism? I’m not trying to be rude, just honest. You have made a point of stereotyping every race and nationality on the planet. Again I ask is that helpful to the cause. As some bright fellow here said equality matters equally.

 

[Fogdog]

I gave a like for the last part because it’s spot on. The other stuff well ya ok their from Canada but does the Canada thing matter? Actually economically your goverment has more effect on us than ours. Being Canadian is irrelevant in these discussions. Honestly DIY is probably more aware of what is happening than 35% (fuck I hope it’s lower lol) of your population. He may not be right but yes aware and yes from reading. Perhaps that’s not a bad thing, seems a few of the people down there could benefit from that. Debate the statement but bringing Canada into it ..... not getting that.

DIY has as much right to comment on the US as any retarded person does.