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tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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No green (downward trend) on the entire map with 36 states rising. I believe that's a first.

Locally, 4 schools just shut down with multiple positive tests among students and staff. County jail exploding with cases. County courthouse exploding with cases. Biggest nursing home exploding with cases and 3 more deaths there. County has more than doubled cases in a week.

Welcome to the beginning of the second wave.

How many people will be offered the Trump drug cocktail if they get it?

20 days out till the people speak. It would appear they're pretty pissed off.

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Fuck you^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No hoax.
 
curious2garden

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tangerinegreen555 said:
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No green (downward trend) on the entire map with 36 states rising. I believe that's a first.

Locally, 4 schools just shut down with multiple positive tests among students and staff. County jail exploding with cases. County courthouse exploding with cases. Biggest nursing home exploding with cases and 3 more deaths there. County has more than doubled cases in a week.

Welcome to the beginning of the second wave.

How many people will be offered the Trump drug cocktail if they get it?

20 days out till the people speak. It would appear they're pretty pissed off.

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Fuck you^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No hoax.
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The White House has finally admitted it's going for Herd Immunity. Although that has long been the direction of its' actions.

thehill.com

White House officials promote herd immunity declaration signed by fake names: report

White House officials have promoted a declaration supporting herd immunity that has reportedly been signed by fake names,
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Get a real respirator, wear eye protection and hair cover if your hair is long enough to reach your eyes. Wash your hands when you come in. We have to protect ourselves now. No more fallacy of wearing a mask to protect others.
Good luck
 
H G Griffin

H G Griffin

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curious2garden said:
Get a real respirator
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I see people wearing half mask or full face air purifying respirators however I've never seen anyone address the issue that the exhaust valves on those units are simple check valves. There is not even the thin cloth of a standard mask blocking or dispersing the exhalations of the wearer.

Given the right filters, a proper fit test, a very close shave, and a number of other factors, the wearer can give themselves a very high level of protection but they are not protecting others from themselves due to unfiltered exhalations. Without a proper fit test, etc, the level of protection drops very quickly.

Source: have spent thousands of hours wearing air purifying respirators, SCBA and SABA, primarily in industrial confined spaces in refineries, chemical plants and boilers.
 
curious2garden

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H G Griffin said:
I see people wearing half mask or full face air purifying respirators however I've never seen anyone address the issue that the exhaust valves on those units are simple check valves. There is not even the thin cloth of a standard mask blocking or dispersing the exhalations of the wearer.

Given the right filters, a proper fit test, a very close shave, and a number of other factors, the wearer can give themselves a very high level of protection but they are not protecting others from themselves due to unfiltered exhalations. Without a proper fit test, etc, the level of protection drops very quickly.

Source: have spent thousands of hours wearing air purifying respirators, SCBA and SABA, primarily in industrial confined spaces in refineries, chemical plants and boilers.
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That's right it only protects the wearer. We are long past depending on others to protect us. But it will stop a virus if you are using an N95 or a N100 filter and it's properly sealed and you test its' seal each time you put it on. I acknowledged that when I ended with this:

curious2garden said:
.........snip...... We have to protect ourselves now. No more fallacy of wearing a mask to protect others.
Good luck
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Stay safe out there HG
 
tyler.durden

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H G Griffin said:
I see people wearing half mask or full face air purifying respirators however I've never seen anyone address the issue that the exhaust valves on those units are simple check valves. There is not even the thin cloth of a standard mask blocking or dispersing the exhalations of the wearer.

Given the right filters, a proper fit test, a very close shave, and a number of other factors, the wearer can give themselves a very high level of protection but they are not protecting others from themselves due to unfiltered exhalations. Without a proper fit test, etc, the level of protection drops very quickly.

Source: have spent thousands of hours wearing air purifying respirators, SCBA and SABA, primarily in industrial confined spaces in refineries, chemical plants and boilers.
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I read forums where people are putting a surgical mask over the exhalation portion of the respirator to provide similar protection for others. I plan to affix a portion of a fabric mask over that part of my respirator so both I and others are protected. Seems like an easy fix...
 
curious2garden

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tyler.durden said:
I read forums where people are putting a surgical mask over the exhalation portion of the respirator to provide similar protection for others. I plan to affix a portion of a fabric mask over that part of my respirator so both I and others are protected. Seems like an easy fix...
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Be careful, you don't want to create any back pressure on exhale that could break your mask to face seal. Other than that go for it! My exhaust port is inside a channel that points my exhalant downward.
 
H G Griffin

H G Griffin

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curious2garden said:
We are long past depending on others to protect us

No more fallacy of wearing a mask to protect others.

Stay safe out there HG
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I am so glad I am Canadian. Most of us care about others as well as ourselves. I mask up to protect everyone.

It's unfortunate you feel your society is so selfish and short-sighted that you are on your own in the struggle.
I hope you stay safe too.
 
H G Griffin

H G Griffin

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tyler.durden said:
Mine, too. We have the same respirator ;)
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Me too, sometimes.
I often have to wear a personal monitor in confined spaces. The common four-head monitor we use reads H2S, SO2, LEL and O2 levels.
I remember evacuating a confined space in which we only wore APR, as opposed to supplied air, when my O2 sensor went off for low levels. It took a while before we figured out the exhaust port from my respirator was directing my oxygen deficient breath into the sensor that was clipped on my chest. D'oh!
 
curious2garden

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H G Griffin said:
I am so glad I am Canadian. Most of us care about others as well as ourselves. I mask up to protect everyone.

It's unfortunate you feel your society is so selfish and short-sighted that you are on your own in the struggle.
I hope you stay safe too.
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I don't 'feel' my society is selfish and short-sighted; sadly every time I go out into the community I witness the fact of it. This is reflected in a 3.5% test positivity rate explained by the 50% cloth mask adherence rate. Therefore wearing a respirator is the only way to stay safe, and as a result, keep my community safe.

Because I can't pass a disease I did not catch.

Thanks for the well wishes. America surely needs them. Based on education and experience I'm uniquely positioned to do well. It's just sad to see such avoidable morbidity and mortality wreak havoc upon our society.
 
curious2garden

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H G Griffin said:
Yeah, as an American you can say that directly, but as a lowly sub-human foreigner, if said it I'd likely get to deal with some of Donny's Dipshits. I was being diplomatic. ;)
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:lol: Just be prepared to repel the infected horde from your borders. Keep them quarantined to the contiguous US. My son just gave up on Los Angeles and moved to Maui for the duration.
 
H G Griffin

H G Griffin

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curious2garden said:
:lol: Just be prepared to repel the infected horde from your borders. Keep them quarantined to the contiguous US. My son just gave up on Los Angeles and moved to Maui for the duration.
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I'm one of those that is far from the border.

Plus we have the wastelands of Calgary between us and the Diseased Lands so we should be safe.
(hah, a double cheap shot. I'm killing me this afternoon.:clap::lol::clap:) :roll:
 
curious2garden

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H G Griffin said:
Me too, sometimes.
I often have to wear a personal monitor in confined spaces. The common four-head monitor we use reads H2S, SO2, LEL and O2 levels.
I remember evacuating a confined space in which we only wore APR, as opposed to supplied air, when my O2 sensor went off for low levels. It took a while before we figured out the exhaust port from my respirator was directing my oxygen deficient breath into the sensor that was clipped on my chest. D'oh!
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Why are you monitoring for hydrogen sulfide low explosive levels, drilling?
 
H G Griffin

H G Griffin

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curious2garden said:
Why are you monitoring for hydrogen sulfide low explosive levels, drilling?
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I do a lot of maintenance work inside fractionation towers(like the ones pictured below) in refineries, as well as in all sorts of other pressure vessels.

Because they are tied in with many, many other systems, and because there is always the danger of disturbing hazardous material, and because we introduce gasses like argon, oxygen and acetylene, there are many possible sources of contaminants and hazards.

Given how tight the work spaces are, how far we are off the ground, and how long it would take the high-angle rescue crews to reach us, it's a common dark joke/sad truth that even with all the monitoring, there are no rescues, only body recoveries.

 
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