Just a little poll, about compost teas. Do you use them as an organic grower?

Do you use compost teas in your grows? Do you find them useful? Any bad experiences?


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DoobieDoobs

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Last night I started reading Northwood's thread about his Pink Lemonade grow, and I have heard about no till but I didn't really looked into it aside from a quick Google search, I didn't have a great idea of what it was really, after reading his thread I now have a better idea of what it is and I liked it. It's so simple but at the same time so complex, replicating what mother earth does on the planet in your grow tent, man. One day I would like to one day work towards that, but I think I need to learn plenty. @Northwood man looks like he understands very well what's happening outside and inside his environment. Very amazing.
 

mistergrafik

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Last night I started reading Northwood's thread about his Pink Lemonade grow, and I have heard about no till but I didn't really looked into it aside from a quick Google search, I didn't have a great idea of what it was really, after reading his thread I now have a better idea of what it is and I liked it. It's so simple but at the same time so complex, replicating what mother earth does on the planet in your grow tent, man. One day I would like to one day work towards that, but I think I need to learn plenty. @Northwood man looks like he understands very well what's happening outside and inside his environment. Very amazing.
Grandmaster Northwood's thread is great. Much to learn there - He also makes Chicharons!!! What??

Also Natureboywonder is quite versed in this sector of organica - He has inspired my full shift
 

lakesidegrower

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I find its tough to determine whether what you are adding in a tea is going to be bacterially dominated or fungal dominant... I know a balance is appropriate for cannabis, but I don't want to totally throw off a balance in the soil. I do plan to use bokashi in run this spring, but don't want to screw it up lol I was considering either 1. mixing my bran flakes into the initial soil mix; 2. mixing in the fermented product of my bokashi bin into the bottom 1/4 of my pots; 3. just amending with the flakes via either top dress or teas. Any suggestions?
 

DoobieDoobs

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They have their time and place. Everyone who starts organic starts heavy on them then learns they aren’t needed that often, esp when the soil is solid and well amended and high quality ewc. The tea is Almost too much. Prob good for the fox farm folx tho heheh x-x I kid kid...but do I?
Like when I started growing mj, I bought micro, grow, bloom pH perfect AN nutrients because when I googled how to grow weed a lot of bottled nutrients lines came up (I'm still finishing my AN nutrients bottles in a separated pot because I don't like to throw away money), but then realized that growing weed didn't need me to spend that much, thank god I realized that before buying the rest of the bottles they sell to grow "better weed" (cal mag, candy....). Then I saw somewhere here in a post that a lot of noobs start with AN xD. I felt that.
 

maranibbana

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Like when I started growing mj, I bought micro, grow, bloom pH perfect AN nutrients because when I googled how to grow weed a lot of bottled nutrients lines came up (I'm still finishing my AN nutrients bottles in a separated pot because I don't like to throw away money), but then realized that growing weed didn't need me to spend that much, thank god I realized that before buying the rest of the bottles they sell to grow "better weed" (cal mag, candy....). Then I saw somewhere here in a post that a lot of noobs start with AN xD. I felt that.
I started with AN hahaha
 

M.O.

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This a great thread and I’m grateful for all the experience weighing in. One thing is clear to me. As a noob without a worm bin I need that first. Once I have that worked out then I can revisit teas. Especially if I need to make that homemade gold spread a bit further.

I do think Northwood mentioning alcohol possibly brewing up should be considered by new guys. My first go at it, simplest recipe, smelled fine and plants reacted in horror with twisted leaves. I can only guess what I did wrong. My environment might cause something bad to brew easy though.
 

ounevinsmoke

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This a great thread and I’m grateful for all the experience weighing in. One thing is clear to me. As a noob without a worm bin I need that first. Once I have that worked out then I can revisit teas. Especially if I need to make that homemade gold spread a bit further.

I do think Northwood mentioning alcohol possibly brewing up should be considered by new guys. My first go at it, simplest recipe, smelled fine and plants reacted in horror with twisted leaves. I can only guess what I did wrong. My environment might cause something bad to brew easy though.
Are you brewing a tea and applying it directly? Try brewing your tea and adding one or two cups to a watering container. Tea can be hot like things in compost can be hot. You dont have to use all the tea at once. I use 4 cups out of a one gallon batch and put the rest in the next batch of soil I plan to use
 

M.O.

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Are you brewing a tea and applying it directly? ?Try brewing your tea and adding one or two cups to a watering container. Tea can be hot like things in compost can be hot.
I did! I brewed and thought it had to be poured immediately. I didn’t cut it at all and figure at the very least I should have.
Good point!
 

shwamp

Active Member
If microbial products are effective in promoting soil life, nutrient uptake and disease prevention, then wouldn't compost teas also be helpful in the same way? I never did this myself, but you can actually examine your compost teas through a microscope and learn to identify what species you're brewing. I learned a lot about compost teas from the microbe organics website ran by Tim Wilson aka microbeman. He seems pretty knowledgeable and scientific in his explanations and the stuff he says makes sense to me.

I've made compost teas with robust compost I bought from a company ran by living soil experts and I've made bokashi teas and haven't seen any ill effects.
 

loco41

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Last time I built some worm bins, I used some leaf/yard waste compost from the backyard and introduced a few different critters to the bins. Also added some of that compost to an existing bin and now have populated that as well. Mainly just brought springtails and sow bugs inside, which has now given me a seemingly endless supply of "frass" in with my worm castings. I really like the sow bugs as they seem to prefer things that take a bit longer to break down (sticks/bark/avocado skin peels/stems) more so than the worms and springtails. Springtails seem to be the most active and least preferential to any of the inputs in the bin from what I've observed so far.

At the end of the day, its all just processed plant material, some castings/frass may be a bit more refined and broken down than what their counterparts excrete or add specific digestive tract goodies, but all should be beneficial in my opinion. I like the term vermicompost for this reason, so much more than just the castings of the worms are at play when working with worm bins.

A lot of very knowledgeable guys in here, but figured I'd throw out my inexperienced two cents to the thread. Wish you all well with the endeavors though.

did you run their casings in tandem with worm? is it worth adding in or pretty much the same thing going on. been seeing some places claim it has all needed micros but zero lab work to prove it...
 

M.O.

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I just use rehydrated kelp meal, aloe, and coconut.
Can I ask about the ‘rehydrated’ part? Are you presoaking it to rinse it? I know kelp can vary a bit by source. Seems if it were salty that’d help some.

When I do get there I’ll try a tea from this thread AND water it down some :leaf:
 

shwamp

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Can I ask about the ‘rehydrated’ part? Are you presoaking it to rinse it? I know kelp can vary a bit by source. Seems if it were salty that’d help some.

When I do get there I’ll try a tea from this thread AND water it down some :leaf:
I think he's referring to coot's method of diy kelp tea. Where he soaks kelp meal and purees it into a paste and stores it in his fridge. He uses it as an instant kelp tea. I've tried this and the kelp doesn't mix with the water too well and stays solid if you don't puree it good enough. I usually prefer to just bubble kelp and molasses with an air pump and a 5 gallon bucket and use that as kelp tea.
 

m4s73r

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I think he's referring to coot's method of diy kelp tea. Where he soaks kelp meal and purees it into a paste and stores it in his fridge. He uses it as an instant kelp tea. I've tried this and the kelp doesn't mix with the water too well and stays solid if you don't puree it good enough. I usually prefer to just bubble kelp and molasses with an air pump and a 5 gallon bucket and use that as kelp tea.
This is it kinda. Having done this for a few years my process is different now. I actually put the kelp through a coffee grinder. Then hydrate it. I then portion it out into an ice tray add a bit of water and freeze em. 1 in a gallon of water in my sprayer. I used to get clogs when i would hydrate first then blend as the blender didnt break it down enough. You could also use a mortar and pestle set to pulverize it down.
 

shwamp

Active Member
This is it kinda. Having done this for a few years my process is different now. I actually put the kelp through a coffee grinder. Then hydrate it. I then portion it out into an ice tray add a bit of water and freeze em. 1 in a gallon of water in my sprayer. I used to get clogs when i would hydrate first then blend as the blender didnt break it down enough. You could also use a mortar and pestle set to pulverize it down.
That is a great idea. I will definitely be using a coffee grinder before hydrating from now on.
 
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