Feminising seed without colloidal silver etc

[Mr in'n'out]

I've worked out a method of turning a female into a male without any treatment such as colloidal silver etc. I've tested this on 3 strains (Critical Kush, an indica I've grown for ages, and a random local sativa) with 100% success. I simply place the chosen plant in an airtight container (such as a large garbage bin) in dark hours. I start doing this three days before I switch back to 12/12, and continue into the flower cycle until a good amount of male sacks have shown. It is even more effective if I spray the branches coming from the very lowest nodes with a heavy dose of colloidal silver (50ppm) three times during light hours. The bottom branches will more than likely suffer or die but all growth above will shoot balls like crazy.
But note, colloidal silver is not neccesary unless you want to collect a good amount of pollen to create R1 seed. I've been selfing my girls, so im after male and female traits on the same plant to create S1 seed, so I've discontinued colloidal silver use altogether.
I hope this helps other growers to get the desired results with very little effort, and little to no use of any toxins.
I wonder if the seed banks use this technique...

 

[anexgrower]

Is it the dark time or the lack of fresh air?

 

[Mr in'n'out]

Lack of oxygen and high humidity I'd say. But the plants don't throw bananas from stress. They only throw genuine male balls. I'm by no means scientifically minded. I stumbled on the method whilst treating the bottom branches with colloidal and separating her at night from my grow room that was running on 18/6. I done this purely because I only had one room running and didn't want to use a separate light just for one plant. So I threw her in an air tight garbage bin for 12 hours. The result was that she threw balls all over, not just on the treated branches. To me it's evidence that a seedling, and even cutting are biologically wired to change sex in early stages of growth if put under stress. If you do the same thing to an already matured plant it'd probably throw hermie bananas. But that's just my uneducated opinion. I'd love to hear other opinions that might have some scientific grounding.

 

[Mr in'n'out]

Is it the dark time or the lack of fresh air?

I also noticed that there is a calcification on the leaves from evaporated nutrient. Maybe this could have something to do with it?

 

[anexgrower]

I think it may be a lack of CO2 and not a lack of oxygen, if that's what is doing it, or a build up of oxygen?

 

[bernie344]

Lack of oxygen and high humidity I'd say. But the plants don't throw bananas from stress. They only throw genuine male balls. I'm by no means scientifically minded. I stumbled on the method whilst treating the bottom branches with colloidal and separating her at night from my grow room that was running on 18/6. I done this purely because I only had one room running and didn't want to use a separate light just for one plant. So I threw her in an air tight garbage bin for 12 hours. The result was that she threw balls all over, not just on the treated branches. To me it's evidence that a seedling, and even cutting are biologically wired to change sex in early stages of growth if put under stress. If you do the same thing to an already matured plant it'd probably throw hermie bananas. But that's just my uneducated opinion. I'd love to hear other opinions that might have some scientific grounding.

The idea is to get balls on only the branches you select, if the balls grow everywhere then you just ruined a good plant.

 

[bEelzeBosS]

The idea is to get balls on only the branches you select, if the balls grow everywhere then you just ruined a good plant.

Yeah, when I want some pollen to for fem seeds I only spray one branch, a small amount of pollen goes a LONG way. No need ruining your entire plant.

 

[Mr in'n'out]

The idea is to get balls on only the branches you select, if the balls grow everywhere then you just ruined a good plant.

I disagree. The ability to do it without treatment using a chemical which ruins the entire plant outweighs what I originally tried to achieve (turning one branch male). This method leaves the plant with male and female characteristics so it's perfect for selfing and creating S1 seed. Yes it was a fail in the fact that it turned the whole plant, but I was merely sharing the method in which colloidal silver is not needed. Therefore you can smoke whatever is left.

 

[Mr in'n'out]

Yeah, when I want some pollen to for fem seeds I only spray one branch, a small amount of pollen goes a LONG way. No need ruining your entire plant.

I can see where you are coming from. But treating one branch requires the knowledge and skill of making and using colloidal silver. Something that many growers seem to have trouble with. I've used colloidal successfully, and sometimes not. This method is good for novice growers. It's a no brainer. As I said, I've had 100% success with no need for colloidal. I am sharing the technique I stumbled upon, not opening a debate about failing to treat one branch successfully. I can do that also, but many can't.

 

[Mr in'n'out]

Yeah, when I want some pollen to for fem seeds I only spray one branch, a small amount of pollen goes a LONG way. No need ruining your entire plant.

And really, treating your plant with colloidal silver ruins the entire plant. You can't smoke it after treatment. So both ways have their pros and cons.

 

[bernie344]

I disagree. The ability to do it without treatment using a chemical which ruins the entire plant outweighs what I originally tried to achieve (turning one branch male). This method leaves the plant with male and female characteristics so it's perfect for selfing and creating S1 seed. Yes it was a fail in the fact that it turned the whole plant, but I was merely sharing the method in which colloidal silver is not needed. Therefore you can smoke whatever is left.

You shared a method that used colloidal silver.

 

[Mr in'n'out]

I think it may be a lack of CO2 and not a lack of oxygen, if that's what is doing it, or a build up of oxygen?

Yeah true. I had to think hard about that. Lol

 

[Mr in'n'out]

You shared a method that used colloidal silver.

No I didn't. I said I discontinued the use of colloidal after I realised the bin method created balls all over the plant. Now I'm not using colloidal and the plant changes sex anyway. Sorry if my wording wasn't clear.

 

[Mr in'n'out]

So just to be clear. After realising the entire plant threw balls when I only used colloidal silver on the bottom branch, I tried the method without colloidal. And the same result. The whole plant threw balls just from being in the airtight container in dark hours.

 

[bEelzeBosS]

And really, treating your plant with colloidal silver ruins the entire plant. You can't smoke it after treatment. So both ways have their pros and cons.

If you're ruining your entire plant from spraying one branch with cs you're doing it wrong.

 

[bernie344]

So just to be clear. After realising the entire plant threw balls when I only used colloidal silver on the bottom branch, I tried the method without colloidal. And the same result. The whole plant threw balls just from being in the airtight container in dark hours.

So you have learnt another way to take a healthy female and stress it so much it grows balls all over, basically ruining a good plant.
This is not a good alternative to collodial silver.

 

[Mr in'n'out]

If you're ruining your entire plant from spraying one branch with cs you're doing it wrong.

I'm not using any colloidal. The plant is changing sex just from being in an airtight container during dark hours. I'm sharing a method to change the sex without colloidal or any other toxin. This was not a post to say colloidal works or that I failed at changing one brancg. It's a post to explain that colloidal isn't needed at all...

 

[Southernontariogrower]

Thank you for sharing your findings. Used colloidal silver in the past and worked well, in canada we have a 4 plant max for rec use, so seeding is out. But I will always remember and share your method. Thanks again

 

[Mr in'n'out]

So you have learnt another way to take a healthy female and stress it so much it grows balls all over, basically ruining a good plant.
This is not a good alternative to collodial silver.

No, its growing balls, not hermie bananas. You should read the post properly before throwing in your opinion. It's the same result as any other method used. It somehow changes sex, plant is totally unstressed. In my opinion colloidal silver causes more stress than this method. You know what they say, don't knock it until you try it.

 

[Mr in'n'out]

Thank you for sharing your findings. Used colloidal silver in the past and worked well, in canada we have a 4 plant max for rec use, so seeding is out. But I will always remember and share your method. Thanks again

No worries mate. I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from.