I am not opposed to governance. For instance, I try to govern my own behavior in accordance with my own principles. I try hard not to govern your behavior unless / until it intersects with my own life in such a way as to impact my rights. I don't think that is fantasyland, I think it is the best reality
there is.
I am opposed to a coercion based government, most sane people are. Government is an institution which relies on coercion, and initiatory coercion against otherwise peaceful people (people not taking others rights away). That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Like it or not.
Believing that an institution based in coercion can bring about a just world, is fantasyland. It is literally impossible, since coercion and justice are opposing concepts. It would be like cutting pieces of your dick off, to gain a few inches.
The ideal society for people can vary, I'm okay with that as long as your ideals aren't forced on others, which is what happens in the present, which is why there is so much turmoil in the world. If you want or need government, go for it, just don't think your ideals can be voted onto me....I may reject them.
Sure, self-governing is what I was referring to when saying that the ideal society doesn't need laws, because they do what's right on their own. A society of self-governing people is fantasyland. The number of laws we have are directly related to how well we self-govern, which the obvious trend is....not very well. Something major would need to happen that would literally change the way we think. Something on the scale of a nuclear war.
Religion is coercion-based governance and with a country that 3/4 identifies as Christian, the country likes coercion-based governance. And that's a fact.
What's not a fact is assuming that coercion must always be negative. Some propaganda is a great thing, like in cartoons when the good guy catches the bad guy and always shows compassion and integrity with the "you're not worth it" line, indicating a choice between ruining their integrity by killing them, or doing what's right and sending them to jail. That's not a fantasyland, you see kids mimicking that every time. It works. Indoctrination works, that's why it exists. The only real fault in it is putting so little faith in people that they feel the need to shut them off from other information.
Your problem is you're stuck on meritless rules, when you should be focusing on merit. Any system works with decent people, but you're stuck on the system and that's an excuse to avoid acknowledging that we're not actually that great of a group of people. The only thing lacking is maintenance. Society's don't last without reinforcing certain ideals and we took civics out of classrooms decades ago. We literally have no form of societal maintenance and this once beautiful thing is starting to turn into a pos is starting to break down. People in their 50's don't even know the difference in how our constitutional rights are applied between people/people and people/gov't. That's like the first thing you learn.
A lot of what people think is being forced onto them is complete horseshit. Some gay dude standing over there telling you to embrace his lifestyle, isn't forcing anything on you. Some lady a hundred miles away getting an abortion isn't forcing anything on you. The vast majority of what I've seen when people think is something being forced on them is simply an extreme hypersensitivity to a specific topic and the "forcing" is being manufactured in their own paranoid and hate-fueled mind.
It's like shooting fish in a barrel...