Weed that tastes like chemical waste, smells like rotten ass and harsh like sandpaper

[SamRD]

I did my first 2 grows back to back. Did you watch the Simpsons? When Homer had incidents at the nuclear plant and the green toxic waste that it produced? My weed tastes like what green nuclear waste would taste like. It tastes like pure chemical and the after taste is even more chemical. The smell is some type of mold mixed with ass. But there is no mold. It's always harsh and unpleasant.

The details:

1) Both grows were blue dream by canuk seeds
2) I used known nutes like advanced nutrients, nothing strange given to the plants
3) The drying and curing process. After the first time messed up I did this last one religiously. Hang it in a dark closet at the right temperature. After the stems became dry enough that they snapped when bended I put them in mason jars. I opened these jars at least 2 times a day to air them. The jars have 62% boveda packs in them. I controlled the humidity with those mini humidity devices that can be placed in the jars and it was always around 57%. Not 62% and I don't know why but 57% is ok too from what I read.
4) The plant didn't have nute burn problems. It had pH issues at one point which I corrected with dolomite lime.
5) Weed has been curing for around a month.
6) I checked every nug and there is no mold. Or I don't know what mold on weed looks like.
My first round was in the jars for about 4/5 months and initially was just like the current weed. After a few months the smell turned sweet, so sweet it seemed like you opened a bag of candy, very uncharacteristic smell. Taste and harshness remained bad.
7) I did a proper flush. For good measure. I know there's a lot of debate on that, I don't want to argue, I just did it so I didn't leave no stone unturned.

Pic of some nugs:

I can think of maybe 1 culprit. I used miraclegrow moisture control. But then again, some people say they have been growing with MG for 10+ years and happy with it. Any insight of what might be the issue?

 

[Nixs]

What color is the ash of the smoke? If black then its too much nutes.

 

[Star Dog]

I'm sorry to hear that I feel your disappointment!

I would rule out curing as the issue, ime curing enhances the weed it doesn't make good weed bad, if it's dried slowly it'll be a tasty smoke in 14 days and get better with curing.

Is the baby bio stuff for edibles?

 

[go go kid]

did you flush them?

baby bio is great for the growing stage but thayts as a last resort, it sucks.
the mirical grow isnt responsible i dont think, ive used it with great results,, back when it was 15-30-15 all changed now its not owned by TCT its now scotts nursarys

you would tell bud rot as a nasty brown/gray mould eating away your flowers and you would maybe have signs on the branches in bad cases

 

[Psyphish]

I hope you didn't follow the instructions on the nutrient bottles lol

 

[bam0813]

Describe your proper flush

 

[bam0813]

Anyway that's one more for organic imo

 

[70's natureboy]

To me, some weed just has that dirty columbian taste. I don't like it but other people love it. I would try something different next time.

 

[SamRD]

What color is the ash of the smoke? If black then its too much nutes.

Not sure, will check. I got a feeling every weed I have ever bought from a dispensary had black ash.

I hope you didn't follow the instructions on the nutrient bottles lol

I did follow the instructions on the nute bottles. I have a new set of nutes, the general hydroponics flora trio. Can anybody tell me what dosage would you recommend for this line? Half? Full?

Describe your proper flush

I flushed 2 weeks before harvest. I researched the amount of water and people recommended a standard amount of water per gallon of pot (can't remember what it was), which is how much water I used. Then just fed water until harvest.

To me, some weed just has that dirty columbian taste. I don't like it but other people love it. I would try something different next time.

I'm growing everything different this time. Different seed, nutes and soil mix. I hope all my work doesn't go to waste again

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Not sure, will check. I got a feeling every weed I have ever bought from a dispensary had black ash.


I did follow the instructions on the nute bottles. I have a new set of nutes, the general hydroponics flora trio. Can anybody tell me what dosage would you recommend for this line? Half? Full?


I flushed 2 weeks before harvest. I researched the amount of water and people recommended a standard amount of water per gallon of pot (can't remember what it was), which is how much water I used. Then just fed water until harvest.


I'm growing everything different this time. Different seed, nutes and soil mix. I hope all my work doesn't go to waste again

I'd start 1/4 strength gh flora trio and work it up from there. You'll know if you need to start upping it, but if you're in soil, I'd use fox farm bottles.

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Not sure, will check. I got a feeling every weed I have ever bought from a dispensary had black ash.


I did follow the instructions on the nute bottles. I have a new set of nutes, the general hydroponics flora trio. Can anybody tell me what dosage would you recommend for this line? Half? Full?


I flushed 2 weeks before harvest. I researched the amount of water and people recommended a standard amount of water per gallon of pot (can't remember what it was), which is how much water I used. Then just fed water until harvest.


I'm growing everything different this time. Different seed, nutes and soil mix. I hope all my work doesn't go to waste again

Use an ec meter. You'll get it more accurate that way.

 

[manfredo]

I only used it a few times, but every thing I ever grew with advanced nutrients tasted like dogshit.

 

[SamRD]

So maybe it was the advanced nutrients nutes. I didn’t think it would be excess nutes giving the bad taste and smell because there was no nute burn. I’ll start at 1/4 strenght this time. My soil this time is a mix of 50/50 happy frog and ffof with 30% perlite, extra dolomite lime and some puffs of diatomaceous soil powder mixed in. It feels so superior to the miraclegrow, that stuff was just nasty.

 

[Dopesmoka]

Go organic

 

[SnoopyDoo]

I doubt it's the nutes, maybe overfeeding, but not the brand on the bottle. Sometimes you just get a stain/pheno that doesn't agree with your pallet.

 

[SamRD]

I doubt it's the nutes, maybe overfeeding, but not the brand on the bottle. Sometimes you just get a stain/pheno that doesn't agree with your pallet.

It's not the pallet, it's so bad I showed it to some other people and they were instantly like damn what did you do. Feels bad man, I see posts of these people who on their first grow get these monster plants and buds with the thickness of my forearm

 

[PJ Diaz]

I'd chalk it up to poor genetics. First off, there is no real Blue Dream in seed form. Blue Dream was a clone only strain, which originated in Santa Cruz, and is a cross of Blueberry and a Santa Cruz Haze that had been worked for a while. The hype on real blue dream was huge for a while, as it yielded large amounts of blueberry smelling bud with high THC. As you can imagine seed banks wanted to profit off the hype, and started making their own knock-offs of BD. I've had the real BD many times, but honestly always found the high to be quite boring. Some people love it though. I checked Canuk's site, and they say their BD is Cheese x Blueberry, which isn't even close to the correct genetics. Most banks will use blueberry x super silver haze, which still isn't really right, but much closer in genetics to the real deal.

 

[SamRD]

I'd chalk it up to poor genetics. First off, there is no real Blue Dream in seed form. Blue Dream was a clone only strain, which originated in Santa Cruz, and is a cross of Blueberry and a Santa Cruz Haze that had been worked for a while. The hype on real blue dream was huge for a while, as it yielded large amounts of blueberry smelling bud with high THC. As you can imagine seed banks wanted to profit off the hype, and started making their own knock-offs of BD. I've had the real BD many times, but honestly always found the high to be quite boring. Some people love it though. I checked Canuk's site, and they say their BD is Cheese x Blueberry, which isn't even close to the correct genetics. Most banks will use blueberry x super silver haze, which still isn't really right, but much closer in genetics to the real deal.

Wow that's some next level knowledge. I went with White Widow and LSD this time, thought it would be safer to go with these more readily available strains.

 

[HydroKid239]

I did my first 2 grows back to back. Did you watch the Simpsons? When Homer had incidents at the nuclear plant and the green toxic waste that it produced? My weed tastes like what green nuclear waste would taste like. It tastes like pure chemical and the after taste is even more chemical. The smell is some type of mold mixed with ass. But there is no mold. It's always harsh and unpleasant.

The details:

1) Both grows were blue dream by canuk seeds
2) I used known nutes like advanced nutrients, nothing strange given to the plants
3) The drying and curing process. After the first time messed up I did this last one religiously. Hang it in a dark closet at the right temperature. After the stems became dry enough that they snapped when bended I put them in mason jars. I opened these jars at least 2 times a day to air them. The jars have 62% boveda packs in them. I controlled the humidity with those mini humidity devices that can be placed in the jars and it was always around 57%. Not 62% and I don't know why but 57% is ok too from what I read.
4) The plant didn't have nute burn problems. It had pH issues at one point which I corrected with dolomite lime.
5) Weed has been curing for around a month.
6) I checked every nug and there is no mold. Or I don't know what mold on weed looks like.
My first round was in the jars for about 4/5 months and initially was just like the current weed. After a few months the smell turned sweet, so sweet it seemed like you opened a bag of candy, very uncharacteristic smell. Taste and harshness remained bad.
7) I did a proper flush. For good measure. I know there's a lot of debate on that, I don't want to argue, I just did it so I didn't leave no stone unturned.

Pic of some nugs: View attachment 4882992

I can think of maybe 1 culprit. I used miraclegrow moisture control. But then again, some people say they have been growing with MG for 10+ years and happy with it. Any insight of what might be the issue?

Looks prematurely harvested at first glance. Could contribute to the smell and taste. I’d make hash or edibles with it. Wouldn’t smoke the bud by the way you describe.

 

[jonnynobody]

I did my first 2 grows back to back. Did you watch the Simpsons? When Homer had incidents at the nuclear plant and the green toxic waste that it produced? My weed tastes like what green nuclear waste would taste like. It tastes like pure chemical and the after taste is even more chemical. The smell is some type of mold mixed with ass. But there is no mold. It's always harsh and unpleasant.

The details:

1) Both grows were blue dream by canuk seeds
2) I used known nutes like advanced nutrients, nothing strange given to the plants
3) The drying and curing process. After the first time messed up I did this last one religiously. Hang it in a dark closet at the right temperature. After the stems became dry enough that they snapped when bended I put them in mason jars. I opened these jars at least 2 times a day to air them. The jars have 62% boveda packs in them. I controlled the humidity with those mini humidity devices that can be placed in the jars and it was always around 57%. Not 62% and I don't know why but 57% is ok too from what I read.
4) The plant didn't have nute burn problems. It had pH issues at one point which I corrected with dolomite lime.
5) Weed has been curing for around a month.
6) I checked every nug and there is no mold. Or I don't know what mold on weed looks like.
My first round was in the jars for about 4/5 months and initially was just like the current weed. After a few months the smell turned sweet, so sweet it seemed like you opened a bag of candy, very uncharacteristic smell. Taste and harshness remained bad.
7) I did a proper flush. For good measure. I know there's a lot of debate on that, I don't want to argue, I just did it so I didn't leave no stone unturned.

Pic of some nugs: View attachment 4882992

I can think of maybe 1 culprit. I used miraclegrow moisture control. But then again, some people say they have been growing with MG for 10+ years and happy with it. Any insight of what might be the issue?

Overfeeding. Cannabis is what's known as a super accumulator plant. If you over feed the plant throughout it's lifecycle those elements are stored in the plant's tissue like a fat person that eats McDonald's 3 times a day. Telling that fat person to drink a bunch of water to flush out their fat cells is just as stupid as telling someone to run a bunch of water through their plants to flush out the elements they've accumulated in their tissue throughout their life cycle. Plants don't work that way and neither do we. If you over feed the plant through veg, flower, and up to harvest I can assure you no amount of water you run through those plants will make your dried flower taste good. The same parallel can be observed by hunters deer hunting. You shoot a deer that grew up and ate in a dirty swampy area that deer meat is gonna taste about as good as what that deer foraged on. You shoot a deer that grew up and ate in a more diverse healthy environment that deer meat is going to taste better and less gamey. Same with fish. Have you ever had someone tell you, "buddy you can drop a lure in that water but whatever you do don't eat anything that comes out of that river?" I think you get the point. What a living organism consumes sticks with that organism.

If you over feed your plant from veg all the way through flower does it really matter if you give that plant plain water for 2 weeks? You're just further fucking the plant's nutrition up by now starving it for the "flush" cycle. It's just a through and through poor understanding of how plants work.

The most flavorful flowers grown are those grown with proper and balanced nutrition from start to finish. As the plant is ripening discontinue fertilizer input in the final 4-7 days to allow the plant to ripen naturally as it winds down it's life cycle. But please understand this is not a "flush" to wash out all the overfeeding you've done throughout the plant's life cycle. It's a discontinuation of fertilizer to allow the plant to ripen as it winds down it's life cycle. Whether you're growing in soil or hydro plants work the same way. They use nutrition the same way. And they will both respond to over feeding the same way. Your flowers will burn and taste like shit. When grandma had a tomato garden going and they were just about ready to pick do you ever remember grandma throwing a bucket of bat shit on the soil? Of course not. That would be stupid, right? As the plant is winding down it's reproductive / life cycle the fruit is ripening and the plant is dying off. What purpose does adding additional fertilizer serve? Like I said it's an understanding of the plan's life cycle. Flushing is for toilets. Leeching is just good garden practice to allow a plant to ripen as it winds down it's life cycle as the plant will have no use or need for those elements at this stage of it's life.

Don't over feed and you don't have to worry about this "flushing" nonsense.

Your choice of fertilizer also matters. Not all are created equal. My flowers are more aromatic, resinous, and flavorful running jack's 3-2-1 than when I grew using general hydroponic's maxi bloom. Same strains. Same lights. Same room. Remarkably better quality. Hey, one last thing: word to your mother homie