Farmer Bean
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TotallyIf your plants were perfect then your runoff would equal your input or be slightly higher.
TotallyIf your plants were perfect then your runoff would equal your input or be slightly higher.
Do you use any perlite mixed with your coco? What ph do you usually water with? Thanks for the info.Zero CalMag. Quality base nutrients should contain all the calcium and magnesium your plants should need. If you need to adjust add more of your calcium nitrate base or epsom salts.
So do you buffer it with cal mag and if so how much?I've always used it straight from the bag without any problems but the ec dropping in the run off hasn't escaped my attention, so yes I know it's holding onto something and buffering with calmag stops that happening ime.
I have used perlite up to now. As I said the last two plants I finished, one had perlite and the other didn't. The one without perlite finished just as good if not better than the one with perlite.Do you use any perlite mixed with your coco? What ph do you usually water with? Thanks for the info.
Why do you follow me around arguing with nothing to back it ? I got this info from YOUR POST. you cited some bullshit to prove it was inert and your citation proved it has lots of food in it. it not inert. AT ALL. It holds food and a ph. thats not inert.Coco is considered inert. There is zero food in it.
No I haven't ever buffered canna but the buffering solution I have used on brick coco is 15ml per gallon.So do you buffer it with cal mag and if so how much?
I'm not following you around, get off your ego train. I corrected your wrong information you posted.Why do you follow me around arguing with nothing to back it ? I got this info from YOUR POST. you cited some bullshit to prove it was inert and your citation proved it has lots of food in it. it not inert. AT ALL. It holds food and a ph. thats not inert.
Its time for you to do some research on the shit you are preaching.
Where did you even read it was empty ? "zero food in it " is just ignorant as hell.....READ SIR!!!
I think the point being here is coco does not break down quickly enough actually add any relevant amout of nutrition in comparison to the salts that its acting as a substrate for. The natural cec of coco is higher than a media such as Rockwood which IS inert. So it holds onto mineral ions better and appears as if it has its own nutritive qualities. It does but seems pretty nominal to me.Why do you follow me around arguing with nothing to back it ? I got this info from YOUR POST. you cited some bullshit to prove it was inert and your citation proved it has lots of food in it. it not inert. AT ALL. It holds food and a ph. thats not inert.
Its time for you to do some research on the shit you are preaching.
Where did you even read it was empty ? "zero food in it " is just ignorant as hell.....READ SIR!!!
This actually happened yesterday with my mid sized veg plants. I've been feeding them super light and they've been telling me they were hungry for the past week, so I was gradually increasing the dose. I never really measured the runoff until recently, and now I can see the benefit of steering the plant before she shows physical signs.If your plants were perfect then your runoff would equal your input or be slightly higher.
Im also not talking about the coco itself breaking down. im talking about the bit of food it has in it unless its washed. The way it comes. I dont recall everything in the test but it was fairly high in K and lots of other minerals. It is NOT a balanced diet for most plants so it will need to be addressed immediately with other food like N but it is not "clean" .....it has food in it AND it holds a ph ..... Real inert media does neither.Ecs
I think the point being here is coco does not break down quickly enough actually add any relevant amout of nutrition in comparison to the salts that its acting as a substrate for. The natural cec of coco is higher than a media such as Rockwood which IS inert. So it holds onto mineral ions better and appears as if it has its own nutritive qualities. It does but seems pretty nominal to me.
Yup. Ec comes out lower because they are eating everything.This actually happened yesterday with my mid sized veg plants. I've been feeding them super light and they've been telling me they were hungry for the past week, so I was gradually increasing the dose. I never really measured the runoff until recently, and now I can see the benefit of steering the plant before she shows physical signs.
This is my only point. im not trying to say coco is like soil and can feed your girls everything they want. Im only saying that it has food in it if not thoroughly washed.So it holds onto mineral ions better and appears as if it has its own nutritive qualities. It does but seems pretty nominal to me.
I used to only check it when I had an issue. Now I'm checking every feeding. I might slack off a little once I feel I have it locked in, but it seems like a really good way to keep your plants happy. I changed up my nutrient line from Canna AB to Mega Crop to Jacks, and it's been a challenge feeding them properly. Canna was great, but expensive and annoying compared to powdered nutrients. Jacks seems to be about as good as it gets.Yup. Ec comes out lower because they are eating everything.
Sodium and potassium I thiiink.... Canna claims they do the washin.My understanding of buffering is that calmag drives p and k from coco, apparently its loaded with pk and it needs removing?
Do you top feed?I'm for flushing prebuffered coco. I've been using prebuffered coco cubes, and I would just hydrate them before transplanting. Then I would flood them in trays. I noticed that my plants were looking a little sad, so I decided to flood them with a top feed. The runoff was clear up until that point, but when I flushed them it came out brown and had a way higher EC. Since then they've looked super healthy.
Thats what I heard. And it would make since that some guys have a lower ph during later veg or so on. If not buffering with some sort of calmag every now and then.My understanding of buffering is that calmag drives p and k from coco, apparently its loaded with pk and it needs removing?
I have no idea about the calmag doing anything to help remove p an k besides the obvious. Flushing with calmag will rinse out most of the extra pk.My understanding of buffering is that calmag drives p and k from coco, apparently its loaded with pk and it needs removing?
I'm not sure what you're asking.Do you top feed?