Anybody else thinking about getting a 2nd vax?
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PJ Diaz
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I read it on Public Health England's recent study:
PJ Diaz
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Natural immunity has more to do with T-cells and B-cells than antibodies, and those T&B cells can last a very long time.
Justin-case
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Justin-case
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Do you have any credible sources, troll?Natural immunity has more to do with T-cells and B-cells than antibodies, and those T&B cells can last a very long time.
PJ Diaz
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How am I misleading people exactly? I posted facts from reliable sources.
Sure, does the NIH work for you?..
T cells recognize recent SARS-CoV-2 variants
NIH research suggests protective effects of vaccination remain intact.
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PJ Diaz
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Also this..How am I misleading people exactly? I posted facts from reliable sources.
Sure, does the NIH work for you?..
T cells recognize recent SARS-CoV-2 variants
NIH research suggests protective effects of vaccination remain intact.www.nih.gov
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Not just antibodies: B cells and T cells mediate immunity to COVID-19 - Nature Reviews Immunology
Here, Cox and Brokstad briefly discuss T cell- and B cell-mediated immunity to SARS-CoV-2, stressing that a lack of serum antibodies does not necessarily equate with a lack of immunity to the virus.
www.nature.com
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What do you got aside from nay saying?
Justin-case
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You lied when said vaccinated people are dying at the same rate, then posted data for patients that were partially vaccinated to try to back up your lie. Nobody likes you, go away troll.How am I misleading people exactly? I posted facts from reliable sources.
Sure, does the NIH work for you?..
T cells recognize recent SARS-CoV-2 variants
NIH research suggests protective effects of vaccination remain intact.
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PJ Diaz
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Look at the chart again, and just consider people with two doses. That number would be 26 out of 4087 or .63%. Compare it to the number who died and were unvaxxed, which would be 34 out of 35.521, or .095%. But you say I lied? How so?
Justin-case
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a patient is not considered fully vaccinated until two weeks after their second dose, liar.
I normally don't care when people want to make fools of themselves, but lives are at stake.
PJ Diaz
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Did you not read the chart? The last column, which I referred to, clearly indicated that it is the numbers for individuals who had gotten their second dose more than 14 days prior to infection.
Are you not paying attention here, or just making blind retorts? Because it might help if you were to actually assimilate the information before attempting to debate it.
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Justin-case
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The first people vaccinated were all high risk. You're cherry picking data to support your lies.
captainmorgan
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95% of COVID-19 deaths since March were in unvaccinated Wisconsinites
And 99% of those hospitalized this year with COVID-19 were unvaccinated.
www.wisn.com
CunningCanuk
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I wonder what the rodeo clown thinks about it?
Asked no one.
Asked no one.
printer
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Like when Africa was shown to have less cases in hospital than North America the thing that was not in the claim is age. Africa does not have an overabundance of people in the 80-100 year range. Now if all the elderly got their shots but some sucum to the virus that would skew results. And since I have other things to do in summer I will not be analyzing the data. I do know that the majority of people in our hospital here have not been vaccinated. US data showed hundreds of people vaccinated have died while thousands that have not died. It was in my physical copy of our local paper and the paper keeps its articles behind a paywall.
If the UK data was the true state of affairs across the globe then there would be more statistics agreeing with it. So far the global conspiracy managed to keep all the other countries inline. Darn UK missed the message.
you should ask the OP about his..sadly, he still listens to the GOPers based on questioning and lack of basic COVID vaccine knowledge.
the message has been missed since millennia..it's the clash of religion v. science and long held familial beliefs.
PJ Diaz
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Many of the first vaxxed were frontline workers. I'm not cherry picking, I'm just looking at the data. Do you have different data to support your assertions, or is this simply a "feel" thing for you based on opinion articles you read? I posted facts and figures from an official legitimate source. If you'd like to debate me on this issue, I suggest that you respond in kind with facts and data to consider as a counter-point, however it seems that all you can do is resort to ad-hominin attacks.
