Is Biden really that bad?

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CunningCanuk

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hanimmal said:
Id still rather be in LBJ with super majorities and low hanging fruit of allowing people to be part of society over where we are at today with the insurrectionist Republicans and their foreign dictator fuckery against our citizens online.
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It’s a different world today, for sure. LBJ also had the advantage of working with a Republican Party that had an interest in responsible governance.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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CunningCanuk said:
Can we agree they both had a difficult job passing legislation with quasi Democrats on their side?
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every president has faced challenges, but the closer you get to the present, the more ridiculous the challenges become.
Hoover never had anyone claiming he was born in Kenya...Washington never had anyone say that he served a worldwide council that ate babies....
even Buchanan, at least in the top three for the worst president ever, never had to put up with a U.S. senator making a movie (or maybe a kinetoscope, considering the time frame) of them killing him, and then trying to play it off as "just a cartoon"...
 
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schuylaar

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GoatSoup said:
I think the reason for Joe's falling approval numbers is due to the two Blue DOg Senators holding up the Progressive/Centrist agenda and the fact that Joe isn't calling them out and pushing the Senate to strip them of any 'leadership' roles.
LBJ would have been kicking their asses all day everyday until they got with the program.
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and they're trying to pin it on the Progs who have been remarkably patient under the circumstances..i mean did you ever think you'd see Debbie Dingall go at it with MTG on the steps of the Capitol?

i'd like to take this moment to remind the others reading that the holdout from the Progs is THE BIDEN AGENDA and what he ran on.

what you run on is what you promised us, President Biden..don't YOU forget that either..Manchin's jig is up- his constituents woke up and they know what he's doing..Sinema? what a laugh..she should go back to wedding planning or whatever she was doing..don't forget her lollipop.
 
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schuylaar

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CatHedral said:
LBJ was fortunate to have come before Reagan. That administration marks the departure of the GOP from consensus politics.
Now, with such sharp and even division along party lines, two blue dogs have extraordinary power to aim the other party square at their own. And no mention of a recall for either. They probably don’t go to French restaurants much.
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sadly another Framers Fail..we had the 25th but who would ever anticipate that those around the President would be in on it too.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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schuylaar said:
and they're trying to pin it on the Progs who have been remarkably patient under the circumstances..i mean did you ever think you'd see Debbie Dingall go at it with MTG on the steps of the Capitol?

i'd like to take this moment to remind the others reading that the holdout from the Progs is THE BIDEN AGENDA and what he ran on.

what you run on is what you promised us, President Biden..don't YOU forget that either..Manchin's jig is up- his constituents woke up and they know what he's doing..Sinema? what a laugh..she should go back to wedding planning or whatever she was doing..don't forget her lollipop.
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don't make the mistake of thinking sinema is stupid. she's a smart cookie, i just question her ethics, or total lack there of....i do not think she does a damn thing out of ignorance, i think she has a plan, unfortunately, her plan doesn't involve the welfare of the country or her constituents, it involves the welfare of sinema....
 
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schuylaar

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CunningCanuk said:
It’s a different world today, for sure. LBJ also had the advantage of working with a Republican Party that had an interest in responsible governance.
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technology revolution has really changed us much more than the industrial revolution changed those in the late 1800s..with industrial you could keep gas lamps or go to electric but you're not changing anything other than a different way to light your home.

technology needs no explanation..it's more than just a different world; it feels like a different dimension these days.
 
Fogdog

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
every president has faced challenges, but the closer you get to the present, the more ridiculous the challenges become.
Hoover never had anyone claiming he was born in Kenya...Washington never had anyone say that he served a worldwide council that ate babies....
even Buchanan, at least in the top three for the worst president ever, never had to put up with a U.S. senator making a movie (or maybe a kinetoscope, considering the time frame) of them killing him, and then trying to play it off as "just a cartoon"...
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I don't think there was ever a time that people didn't mock the prez. What's significant is how much a few of the recent ones deserved it.

a cartoon of 1880, presidential candidates.

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schuylaar

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
don't make the mistake of thinking sinema is stupid. she's a smart cookie, i just question her ethics, or total lack there of....i do not think she does a damn thing out of ignorance, i think she has a plan, unfortunately, her plan doesn't involve the welfare of the country or her constituents, it involves the welfare of sinema....
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constituents are catching on because this debate has been highlighted- no primary necessary..if corporations are people then they get one vote right along with us..let her suck their cock..i remember one who did..always in the news..where is she now?

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