Oliver Pantsoff
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It's about killing the larvae/eggs. Azamax or Azasol always does the trick for me...Sticky traps for the adults. Hope this helps
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Spinosad..
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resinhead
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I’ve had really good results with gnatrol. Works better than the dunks for me.
That and nematodes along with a product called gognats which is recycled broken glass that looks like perlite was my ultimate solution.
edit: and lots of yellow sticky traps to catch the adults!
That and nematodes along with a product called gognats which is recycled broken glass that looks like perlite was my ultimate solution.
edit: and lots of yellow sticky traps to catch the adults!
twentyeight.threefive
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I now remember that I mixed the Spinosad with my feed once after the mosquito dunks didn't do a thing. Also did a foliar spray with the Spinosad. The gnats disappeared almost overnight.
Hot Diggity Sog
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Here's my 2 cents on the topic:
I recently had a fungus gnat infestation due to contaminated coco-coir. Up until this happened, I had never had a bug problem of any kind. I started with the yellow sticky traps and I had them everywhere - hanging, lying down and even on the containers. I probably averaged 10 of the large ones and 20 of the small ones in the room at a time. They were catching maybe 200 a day on average. I researched a ton. I started with Mosquito Bits. I mixed up a tea and did full waterings with it. I repeated every 10 to 12 days for an entire month. It did absolutely nothing. I know they were breeding in the containers because I could see them going in and out of the drainage holes as well as the top of the container.
I began spinosad and things started to improve quickly. But it wasn't perfect. It was clearly hurting the breeding cycle but I could not exterminate them. I decided to get very aggressive, and after 3 weeks, I achieved total extermination.
1) Full container drench with plenty of run-off using the recommended dosage.
I repeated every 5 to 6 days, for 3 weeks.
2) I washed my grow table/benches with bleach water once a week.
3) I kept rotating the sticky traps and maintained around 30 of them in the grow space.
Everyone's experience is probably different. But this was mine.
I recently had a fungus gnat infestation due to contaminated coco-coir. Up until this happened, I had never had a bug problem of any kind. I started with the yellow sticky traps and I had them everywhere - hanging, lying down and even on the containers. I probably averaged 10 of the large ones and 20 of the small ones in the room at a time. They were catching maybe 200 a day on average. I researched a ton. I started with Mosquito Bits. I mixed up a tea and did full waterings with it. I repeated every 10 to 12 days for an entire month. It did absolutely nothing. I know they were breeding in the containers because I could see them going in and out of the drainage holes as well as the top of the container.
I began spinosad and things started to improve quickly. But it wasn't perfect. It was clearly hurting the breeding cycle but I could not exterminate them. I decided to get very aggressive, and after 3 weeks, I achieved total extermination.
1) Full container drench with plenty of run-off using the recommended dosage.
I repeated every 5 to 6 days, for 3 weeks.
2) I washed my grow table/benches with bleach water once a week.
3) I kept rotating the sticky traps and maintained around 30 of them in the grow space.
Everyone's experience is probably different. But this was mine.
Dreminen169
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If the BTI is not doing the job, you sure they’re not root aphids? Have you scoped them?
DoubleAtotheRON
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I’m not using BTI yet… and yes, I have a 1200x’s microscope, and know the difference between the 2. Never had winged root aphids, but always these damn FG’s.
Dreminen169
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You are using BTI, The Mosquito dunks have bacillus thuringiensis israelensis (BTI) in them
DoubleAtotheRON
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I said I have used them in the past... I have not started a dose of it this round.... so far. Looking for better solutions. It worked ok, but still had them on traps all throughout the last grow. MF'ers are relentless. I even had Springtails last grow.
Dreminen169
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springtails are beneficial however too much of anything is no good
DoubleAtotheRON
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They didn't hurt anything to my knowledge. I scoped alot of my buds looking for "foreign" matter because that's what the lab looks for as well. I gather up our lab samples and put them all under the microscope looking for hair, fabric material, bugs, whatever. But yeah, I bombed the room after the last grow.
TintEastwood
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BTi in the res.
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Good overview
Fungus Gnats Management Guidelines--UC IPM
UC home and landscape guidelines for control of Fungus Gnats.
ipm.ucanr.edu
DoubleAtotheRON
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NICE!.... I've looked at Gnatrol, and it's expensive as hell!.. This looks like a good knock down for cheap!.. thanks Tint!
TintEastwood
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Your space looks really nice Double. Last thing you need or deserve are pesky gnats.
One of these days Imma road trip to OK!
Dreminen169
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Is that just a more concentrated form of BTI than the mosquito dunks?
TintEastwood
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Yes. Much more concentrated.
(Was a pain in the azz making "bti concentrate soup" from Mosquito dunks.)
PadawanWarrior
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I've heard good stuff about this bti, even from people who used the bits first and it didn't work. And there's Grow Generation in OK too. I have one here a couple miles away. What's crazy is I'm in a little mountain town. But there main location is down the hill in Denver. Awesome place. And you'll get a discount if you have an account. You'd get a better discount than me since you're much larger scale.
Microbe-Lift BMC 6 oz
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Oh fuck, I didn't even realize that link was to the shit I was talking about, lol. Fucking stoners.
DoubleAtotheRON
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Come on brotha!... and thanks!
Yes, I've heard that, but I don't water until the absolutely need it, and I weigh the pots on a scale to be sure. For the past three weeks, I have waited until each plant wilted to be absolutely sure I cannot wait any longer, plus I have a fan down below blowing directly on the pots to dry them out. Hasn't made any difference.
The soil I used was totally infested, it's my fault for not letting the soil dry out and/or treating with boiling water. I also think the air pots did not help, I have always used fabric pots in the past, I think they dry better. I am going back to air pots for the next grow.
DCcan
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They are probably under the root crown and repopulating, may need a BTi/etc root soak to get everything treated.
The Microbe-Lift is much better than Mosquito bits or dunks tossed in. You have no idea how much is leached, or where it drains to using chunks of treated cork.
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