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curious2garden

curious2garden

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manfredo said:
They are mostly all cheap Chinese pumps and they don't last....They are inexpensive to buy too. A lot of people upgrade to air powered, like @doublejj did.

She could slide a 12 ton in there for $40

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Or here's the 20 ton air model...No hand pumping required.

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I have a cheap Chinese manual pump on my 20T floor jack in the garage. Same bottlejack for 25 years. That was my point. My experience is they last. I also have 2 cheap Chinese floor lifts that have lasted a good 30 years. So I'm not convinced I'll wear it out, but yes I'll eventually move to electric because manual is a bother.
 
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manfredo

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curious2garden said:
I have a cheap Chinese manual pump on my 20T floor jack in the garage. Same bottlejack for 25 years. That was my point. My experience is they last. I also have 2 cheap Chinese floor lifts that have lasted a good 30 years. So I'm not convinced I'll wear it out, but yes I'll eventually move to electric because manual is a bother.
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I do too...My Sears 2 ton floor jack is 40 years old and still going strong. It's not the seals that wear out...It's the actual pumping mechanism that is made out of cheap, flimsy metal on many of them. That's what breaks on most of them I think. Mine is quite wobbly already but I baby it.

What broke on yours @doublejj ?
 
GreatwhiteNorth

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manfredo said:
I do too...My Sears 2 ton floor jack is 40 years old and still going strong. It's not the seals that wear out...It's the actual pumping mechanism that is made out of cheap, flimsy metal on many of them. That's what breaks on most of them I think. Mine is quite wobbly already but I baby it.

What broke on yours @doublejj ?
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I did a lot of hydraulic work in a past life & the only bottle/floor jack I was ever able to repair was a commercial OTC 10 ton floor jack. You simply cannot get parts for most cheapo units and they build them so cheaply you can't even get into many.
 
DarkWeb

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
I did a lot of hydraulic work in a past life & the only bottle/floor jack I was ever able to repair was a commercial OTC 10 ton floor jack. You simply cannot get parts for most cheapo units and they build them so cheaply you can't even get into many.
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So you're saying I should just toss that craftsman that's been sitting broken in the back of the shop for the last ten years bongsmilie
 
manfredo

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DarkWeb said:
So you're saying I should just toss that craftsman that's been sitting broken in the back of the shop for the last ten years bongsmilie
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I seriously have the 20 ton Craftsman I bought when I was about 20 years old...I remember buying it on a half price sale for $100, regularly $200...and I had a used car dealer license for about 6 years so it saw some action.

Sears did have some good tools...I am still rocking a Craftsman screwgun, and a electric weedeater and blower, all ancient but still working good.
 
DarkWeb

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manfredo said:
I seriously have the 20 ton Craftsman I bought when I was about 20 years old...I remember buying it on a half price sale for $100, regularly $200...and I had a used car dealer license for about 6 years so it saw some action.

Sears did have some good tools...I am still rocking a Craftsman screwgun, and a electric weedeater and blower, all ancient but still working good.
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They did have good tools. I bought some jeep parts from someone probably 20 years ago.....the guy was moving and couldn't take it. I guess he just didn't have room. He threw it in with the parts along with some big jack stands.
 
doublejj

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manfredo said:
I do too...My Sears 2 ton floor jack is 40 years old and still going strong. It's not the seals that wear out...It's the actual pumping mechanism that is made out of cheap, flimsy metal on many of them. That's what breaks on most of them I think. Mine is quite wobbly already but I baby it.

What broke on yours @doublejj ?
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I swapped for an air jack from the start. However the first air jack failed because the heated plates would transfer heat up to the jack and caused the seals to leak. I was running it for too long at one time. Now I squish in short cycles so the heat doesn't build up. Squish for 5-10min then shut off the heat. 2nd jack has never had an issue. You will need an air compressor also
 
curious2garden

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manfredo said:
I seriously have the 20 ton Craftsman I bought when I was about 20 years old...I remember buying it on a half price sale for $100, regularly $200...and I had a used car dealer license for about 6 years so it saw some action.

Sears did have some good tools...I am still rocking a Craftsman screwgun, and a electric weedeater and blower, all ancient but still working good.
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My dad had a cheap ass Craftsman Tablesaw he built a nice cabinet for. After he got home from work he'd do custom cabinets in the garage on that thing. Oh and he didn't have a shaper to make the doors he used a hand held router. Craftsman had some good tools back then. He turned out works of art and I swear it did a better job than my Rockwell Unisaw does.
 
DarkWeb

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curious2garden said:
My dad had a cheap ass Craftsman Tablesaw he built a nice cabinet for. After he got home from work he'd do custom cabinets in the garage on that thing. Oh and he didn't have a shaper to make the doors he used a hand held router. Craftsman had some good tools back then. He turned out works of art and I swear it did a better job than my Rockwell Unisaw does.
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This place I have.....the reason I wanted it was the shop. I knew the previous owner, he had a sweet cabinet shop set up in the upstairs. I have 3/4" ply for walls....totally open.....11' ceiling. I wanted the equipment but he wanted too much. It had a sick table saw and router setup dead center. Dust collection, a big HEPA filter on the ceiling.....the whole 9.



It's fucking packed with shit from my basement :wall:
 
curious2garden

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DarkWeb said:
This place I have.....the reason I wanted it was the shop. I knew the previous owner, he had a sweet cabinet shop set up in the upstairs. I have 3/4" ply for walls....totally open.....11' ceiling. I wanted the equipment but he wanted too much. It had a sick table saw and router setup dead center. Dust collection, a big HEPA filter on the ceiling.....the whole 9.



It's fucking packed with shit from my basement :wall:
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I built the woodshop my dad would have been in Nirvana in. I'm missing a shaper, oh well. Down to the Incra fence. I can duplicate any cut any time, easy peasy, no beating on my fence with my fist LOL. It dials in with precision

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The 52" not the 32"
I love that more than most humans
 
DarkWeb

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curious2garden said:
I built the woodshop my dad would have been in Nirvana in. I'm missing a shaper, oh well. Down to the Incra fence. I can duplicate any cut any time, easy peasy, no beating on my fence with my fist LOL. It dials in with precision

INCRA TOOLS :: Precision Woodworking Fences :: Table Saw Fences :: INCRA TS-LS Table Saw Fence

For over 30 years, INCRA Saw Fences have been the Gold Standard for Accuracy, Repeatability, and Efficiency. Now available in metric!
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The 52" not the 32"
I love that more than most humans
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Sweet, I have a nice older 14" powermatic wood band saw with a fence and a bunch of other Kreg parts.
 
manfredo

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I grew up working in my parents woodshop starting about age 10. It's quite amazing I still have all my fingers! It was all production work, but I was always making stuff on the side.

And that's where I learned to spray paint ....Probably sprayed at least 1000 gallons of clear lacquer by age 16...all without a mask! :o :weed: That is such a nice high. especially good for a 12 year old...and the paste stain we used was mixed with gasoline...leaded gasoline. Instant lead poisoning, also wonderful for a young mind. Then I moved onto automotive paint for continued good times! Drain bamage :dunce:
 
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